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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / April 2007Bedrading elektrische stoel naast de bestuurder
Beste mensen, De elektrische stoel naast de bestuurder doet het niet meer. Aangezien de zitting, rugleuning en hoofdsteun het niet doen, is het niet aan te nemen dat de motoren stuk zijn. De monteur heeft vastgesteld dat er geen stroom staat op de schakelaar in het portier. Maar de oorzaak van deze stroom onderbreking kunnen we niet achterhalen. Graag hulp. Hoe ziet het stroomcircuit er uit? Wat zijn andere mogelijke oorzaken? Het betreft een Mercedes S300 uit 1991. Mijn mailadres is Wim@Schuringa.eu Bij voorbaat mijn dank Wim Schuringa, Nijkerk. Nederland > De elektrische stoel naast de bestuurder doet het niet meer. > Aangezien de zitting, rugleuning en hoofdsteun het niet doen, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Mijn mailadres is Wim@Schuringa.eu Ah, you didn't notice that the discussions are usually in English? Or are you one of the very rare Dutchmen who don't speak English? Try http://www.problemcar.nl/ if you ever bother to check this group again. Ximinez (reminder: I'm Dutch myself)  SignatureOur three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/paulfitz/spanish/t1.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A That's a bit rude...?... ;-) DAS For direct replies replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] > Ah, you didn't notice that the discussions are usually in English? Or are > you one of the very rare Dutchmen who don't speak English? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ximinez (reminder: I'm Dutch myself) > That's a bit rude...?... Hey, I even showed him the way to a Dutch-speaking mechanics site, which is actually quite good. Ximinez SignatureOur three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/paulfitz/spanish/t1.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A >> That's a bit rude...?... > >Hey, I even showed him the way to a Dutch-speaking mechanics site, which >is actually quite good. Still rude nevertheless :-) if he wants to post in Dutch, let him. He's probably looking for another Dutchman, like yourself, who might answer him. Now, inquiring minds want to know: why isn't it Netherlander or better still Nederlander rather than 'Dutchman ..... what the heck is 'Dutch' anyway? Is it someone, like an American or Brit, who at some point in histlry screwed up Dutch and Deutsch?? I wonder cheers, guenter >>> That's a bit rude...?... >> Hey, I even showed him the way to a Dutch-speaking mechanics site, which [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Is it someone, like an American or Brit, who at some point in histlry screwed > up Dutch and Deutsch?? I wonder I'll tell you what's rude as well. Leaving your e-mail address for replies. That's not participating in a group, that's just using it. I'm pretty sure he won't be back anyway. Truly multi-lingual newsgroups die out anyway. Nobody cares enough to pick out the messages they can read/reply. Ever heard of Babylon? The Dutch part is historic. Early Dutch language was referred to as 'Diets' in the Middle Ages. The English (with whom we always had an intensive relationship - look at the four Dutch - English wars) probably stuck to that old term. We just call ourselves Nederlanders or Hollanders, although Holland is technically only a part of the country. We call the Germans 'Duits' or 'Duitsers'. Ximinez SignatureOur three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/paulfitz/spanish/t1.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A Holland is part of England, too. (Lincolnshire, eastern England) And there's Holland Park in London, but that's just named after Lord Holland ... DAS For direct replies replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] > stuck to that old term. We just call ourselves Nederlanders or Hollanders, > although Holland is technically only a part of the country. [...] > Ximinez >>>> That's a bit rude...?... >>> Hey, I even showed him the way to a Dutch-speaking mechanics site, which [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >Hollanders, although Holland is technically only a part of the country. >We call the Germans 'Duits' or 'Duitsers'. Ximinez, thanks for that... I've learned something that I probably should have known already. Of course your answer just leads to another question... why the similarity between Diets and Duits ... sound pretty much just like a difference in dialect more than anything else. I guess if we go back far enough even english will meld into Diets and Duits. Remids me of reading Chaucer where I recognized a fair bit of the olde english via german .... cheers, guenter >>>>> That's a bit rude...?... >>>> Hey, I even showed him the way to a Dutch-speaking mechanics site, which [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > me of reading Chaucer where I recognized a fair bit of the olde english via > german .... The German and Dutch languages are clearly from the same roots. I used to know a Dutch/German couple who just spoke to each other in their own language. That worked pretty well for household stuff. Philosophy and technology discussions would be a wholly different matter, but they weren't much interested in that anyway. In the Middle Ages, what is now Germany was a collection of small independent states. If things had gone differently (and I'm not talking about WWII) Holland might perhaps have ended up as a German province. Dutch probably just started as one of the Germanic dialects. As to the relationship between German, English and Dutch, you shouldn't leave out the role of the Frisian language (spoken by people in the northern Friesland province of the Netherlands). Apparently, linguists have discovered that the Frisian language is linguistically the closest language to English. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisian_language From that article, some interesting word transformations from German to Dutch to Frisian to English: zurück -> terug -> tebek -> back Schafe -> schapen -> skiep -> sheep Fascinating stuff... Ximinez SignatureOur three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/paulfitz/spanish/t1.html Plattdeutsch (Low German) spoken in North-Rhine Westphalia not so far from the Dutch border sounds very Dutch. I am told they can understand each other fairly well. DAS For direct replies replace nospam with schmetterling --- [...] > As to the relationship between German, English and Dutch, you shouldn't > leave out the role of the Frisian language (spoken by people in the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Ximinez > -- |
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