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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / May 2007

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1998 ML320 - AC Electrical Issue?

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andrewdoak - 13 May 2007 14:54 GMT
We bought our 1998 ML320 about 4+ years ago. Had it's issues, but what
used vehicle doesn't. Currently we have these set of issues:

1. Heated seats stopped working a long time ago (oh well)
2. Rear wiper just clicks (according to one group member here it's a
common problem)
3. Starting issue (drive the Benz more then 30 min, stop, walk into
Starbucks, come out 5 minutes later and you aren't going anywhere
*sometimes* - pain, but a problem that has a solution... wait for it
to cool down).
4. AC IS OUT

Prior to it going out completely, when it wouldn't turn on, I would
pop the fuse box under the hood, *massage* some of the relays, and
BAM, fan would click on. Not so much now. I stopped by one of the auto
parts stores and got 2 new relays (the ones I would slightly tap/move
back and forth) thinking I might just have a bad relay. No such luck.

Anyone have similar issues? I'm not against taking her in, I'm just
looking for a potential DIY fix that might be a quick one and
something I can take care of fast - it's hot here, of course. Any
suggestions are greatly appreciated. At least the windows work to keep
as cool as possible.

Thanks.
Tiger - 13 May 2007 15:27 GMT
> 1. Heated seats stopped working a long time ago (oh well)

If you are handy with electrical works, you can diagnose this by checking
the power at the seat when you trigger the heated seat... if no new power
other than your power seat... it is probably the relay.

If you got power, then you need to check the resistance of heater pads...
two sets... should read some resistance.

Most likely is the relay.

> 2. Rear wiper just clicks (according to one group member here it's a
> common problem)

Change out the wiper motor.

> 3. Starting issue (drive the Benz more then 30 min, stop, walk into
> Starbucks, come out 5 minutes later and you aren't going anywhere
> *sometimes* - pain, but a problem that has a solution... wait for it
> to cool down).

Most likely a leaky fuel injector. You got a vapor lock because the fuel
pressure didn't stay high and hot engine coupled with low fuel pressure will
make fuel turn into gaseous state... let the dealer fix this.

> 4. AC IS OUT

Get a bottle of refrigerant at the local auto parts... the one with a hose
and fittings already on it... hook it up to your syste,... it would be the
one with blue cap... The pressure must be at least 60 for the compressor to
come on... Once the compressor is running, you will see the pressure drop...
it has to be around 25 to 30 PSI range for AC to be COLD.

So that is at least 2 of the 4 you can do.
> Prior to it going out completely, when it wouldn't turn on, I would
> pop the fuse box under the hood, *massage* some of the relays, and
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> Thanks.
andrewdoak - 14 May 2007 15:48 GMT
Thanks Tiger. I'll jump on the ones you suggested and let the board
know how it goes. Appreciate the help.
andrewdoak - 15 May 2007 17:13 GMT
Went and got the refrigerant. Attached to the system - 100 PSI.
According to the instructions, if it's in that range there's a bigger
problem. Have yet to tackle the seats (since it warm enough out here
as it is), but thinking it's time to take her in and have the set of
items looked at. Thanks for all the help and suggestions Tiger.
Tiger - 15 May 2007 17:53 GMT
100 PSI means your compressor is not kicking on. That is normal pressure
when system is not operating... Are you sure you turned on the AC? Did you
check the fuse for AC?

Look by the drier,,, round black thing by the radiator where your AC hoses
goes to... the terminals that stick upward... black ... is the wire
attached?
andrewdoak - 21 May 2007 15:03 GMT
I checked, and all wires are attached. One thing I forgot to mention
was the horn stopped working. So yesterday while at the gas station
(AC still not working), I popped the hood and checked the fuse for the
horn. When I went to remove the fuse, just by touching the the fuse
and relay both the horn started to work and the AC kicked on. Not sure
what this means?
Tiger - 21 May 2007 16:16 GMT
LOL... that means the fuse had bad contact... I'd pull it out and reinsert a
couple of times... to break out those oxidations... Possible that your
fusebox cover was not sealing tight enough.
andrewdoak - 21 May 2007 19:09 GMT
Well, never fails. According to the wife the horn now still works, but
the AC has gone out again. You mentioned breaking out the
oxidations... my fuse box cover isn't the best sealed... could I be
getting oxidation that is preventing a strong connection?

She wants to get a window unit and plug that though the passenger
window while I continue to explore possible solutions. Thanks for the
help - I owe you a beer (or 2).
Tiger - 22 May 2007 16:11 GMT
I'd double check the fuse again for AC this time... maybe you got a bad fuse
too... take it out and check.

If you are handy with multimeter... set it to ohm... and go to that
accumulator/drier... the black sensor sticking up... pull the two wires off
the top and check the terminals with the multimeter... should read 0.1 or
something... continuity is what we are looking for.
 
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