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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / May 2007

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1999 E300TD  any good?

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Guenter Scholz - 14 May 2007 16:32 GMT
Hi All,

 I'm about to go look at one of these.  Love the idea of the car still
having a inline engine... turbo is nice.  Any caveats that I'm not aware of?
What should I be paying for this car roughly??

cheers, guenter

ps I imagine it's a far car from the new CDI engine, but should be a lot        
  cheaper though.
JD - 14 May 2007 17:09 GMT
> Hi All,
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> ps I imagine it's a far car from the new CDI engine, but should be a lot        
>    cheaper though.

I considered one myself but a MB diesel fanatic friend convinced me to
go for an older one. I just bought a '92 300E turbo diesel. So far so
good. Haven't gathered enough data for actual fuel economy but with
diesel running $0.45 less than regular unleaded I figure I'm already way
ahead of the game.

JD
Guenter Scholz - 15 May 2007 02:02 GMT
.... so, what were they asking for the one you were looking at?  What was the
ballpark on the '92 you bought if I may be so bold?

>> Hi All,
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>JD
JD - 15 May 2007 03:08 GMT
A pittance in comparison to a '98-'99; $4200

JD

> .... so, what were they asking for the one you were looking at?  What was the
> ballpark on the '92 you bought if I may be so bold?
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>> JD
JD - 15 May 2007 03:11 GMT
> A pittance in comparison to a '98-'99; $4200
>
> JD

I should qualify that a little. That year and model Merc could command
$10,000 in the Seattle area where I live. I bought mine from the Philly
area.

JD

>> .... so, what were they asking for the one you were looking at?  What
>> was the
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Tiger - 14 May 2007 19:31 GMT
That's the car I would buy... either 99 or 98. I want that turbo!
Guenter Scholz - 15 May 2007 02:04 GMT
>That's the car I would buy... either 99 or 98. I want that turbo!

    Yes, I hope that I'll get it.... it'll be a far cry from my 240D.
Any idea what the ballpark price should be with about 80k miles on it???

cheers, guenter
a2zebayplrod@gmail.com - 15 May 2007 02:49 GMT
On May 14, 9:04 pm, sch...@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Guenter Scholz)
wrote:
> In article <uV12i.47$QQ...@newsfe12.lga>, Tiger <tiger0...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >That's the car I would buy... either 99 or 98. I want that turbo!
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>
> cheers, guenter

We have two of them, both 98's; they have their quirks but IMO offer a
newer car look, good fuel mileage, and good safety rating, we run ours
on SVO or WVO and they love it.  I also have a 91 300TD...  With that
mileage, depending on where you're buying it, expect to pay in the mid
to upper teens, which, if the car is very clean and everything checks
out is not too bad.  Ours both have higher miles and I paid right at
11K for each one.
Tiger - 15 May 2007 03:32 GMT
Sounds about right on price range. Check with edmudns.com...nadaguides.com
and look at autotraders.com for some listing to get some comparison in
prices.

SVO or WVO... what kit did you install? I guess you got a second tank too...
Who does the treatment of the oil? How easy is it? Any direct source of
information is greatly appreciated as I want to plan for my 95 E300D diesel.
a2zebayplrod@gmail.com - 15 May 2007 13:23 GMT
> Sounds about right on price range. Check with edmudns.com...nadaguides.com
> and look at autotraders.com for some listing to get some comparison in
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> Who does the treatment of the oil? How easy is it? Any direct source of
> information is greatly appreciated as I want to plan for my 95 E300D diesel.

http://www.vegeterrainian.com/ just made a kit for me with a custom 5
gallon tank for diesel which mounts in the trunk on the passenger side
behind the wheel well.  This was his first W210 kit I believe but this
guy is a craftsman.  I'm running single tank blends in both cars, that
is, I put the veggie oil once filtered and settled and dewatered
straight into my car's fuel tank and heat the oil in the engine
compartment before the injection pump.  I collect and process all of
my own oil from one restaurant.  To learn more about this go to the
infopop forum at http://biodiesel.infopop.cc and read away.  Us
blenders were given our own section it's called "solvent thinning" go
there and read, lots of knowledgeable people there who have been doing
this for awhile.  I read for 2 years before I took the plunge.  I've
never looked back, I've got my whole family on veggie and now looking
to replace the familiy vacation hauler with a big diesel SUV to do the
same.
Tiger - 15 May 2007 15:02 GMT
How long have you been running with this Vege Terranian? Who installed it?
Sorry for asking alot of questions... but I'd like to learn more...
Tom Plunket - 22 May 2007 01:00 GMT
> How long have you been running with this Vege Terranian? Who installed it?
> Sorry for asking alot of questions... but I'd like to learn more...

Did my '79 300TD at http://www.lovecraftbiofuels.com last weekend.
Really trick setup, very clean install.  $450 for the parts, $250 for
the labor that I didn't want to deal with.

There's a huge new (primary) fuel filter that goes before the prefilter.
This filter mount also taps the coolant lines, to heat the fuel as it
enters.  From there, the fuel travels into the prefilter, through the
pump, and into the place where the primary fuel filter used to be, but
there's another heater there.  That part wigs me out a bit, but a lot of
people have this setup and I suppose if you're cleaning your own oil you
know it's not going to have crap in it in the first place.  So that
heater takes the coolant out from the primary filter, and coolant goes
back to a tap near the firewall.  Oh yeah, there's another electric fuel
pump installed just before the primary filter now too.

I live in Southern California.  The temperature ranges from 70 to 70, so
running pure veggie oil in the tank year-round isn't a problem.  I'm
already planning an engine teardown, which I may now put off a year. Nab
myself some of those Elsbett injectors while doing the rings. (Leaking
oil out of the breather now which stinks when it burns.  I lose under a
quart every 3k miles though, so it ain't terrible just yet.)

-tom!

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Tiger - 22 May 2007 16:07 GMT
Wow Tom! Keep us updates... that place is so cool. Anytime without
appointment MB conversion! Relative resonably priced setup compared to all
other I have seen.
 
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