In another thread, Heav wrote:
> I have my '82 TDT pretty much apart right now. I pick up the engine
> tomorrow which I have just had completely remanufactured for $5600 at
> Metric Motors in the LA area and I have the interior all removed for
> cleaning and replacement of the AC evaporator, which requires removing
> the dash.
I'm somewhat interested in doing this myself. I get a lot of oil
blow-by and wonder if I might find a bit more performance with new
cylinder walls and rings.
I've done a full engine teardown and rebuild in the past, but it's been
a long time and now I don't have tools, space, or time honestly to do
it. So, if I want to have someone else do it for me, well, what's the
best way to go about it?
I remember another thread, someone suggested that sending the motor to
MB in Germany to have them do it was a similar cost, but I'd prefer to
avoid pulling the engine myself as well.
So LA is pretty close by. Does Metric have the capability to pull a
motor and store the car while they're doing the work? (For $6k+ I'd
hope so!) Could I/should I even consider having the local MB shop pull
it and send it away for me?
Honestly, the car's only got 160k miles on it so it seems like this
might be a bit "young" to be doing an engine rebuild, but, well, it
needs it. ..."need" being somewhat relative, too, since it does run ok
and it does cruise on the freeway just fine, it just chews through oil a
bit faster than I'd like and oil runs all down the side of the engine
from the breather tube...
thanks,
-tom!
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-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 24 Jun 2007 07:11 GMT
oil runs all down the side of the engine
from the breather tube...
Suggest you investigate a vacuum leak, perhaps in the brake booster. You
may say what does THAT have to do with the motor's excessive blow by?
The vacuum pump vents INTO the engine so a vacuum leak somewhere will
add to the motor's natural blow by and so cause a mess.
But if you want another engine Metric Motors will be happy to talk rebuild.

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heav - 24 Jun 2007 13:58 GMT
Here are some pictures of my engine after I got my it back from
Metric:
http://inyopro.com/left_side.jpg
http://inyopro.com/right_side.jpg
Metric does not do engine management. That means that they do not
pull engines or put them in the car. That is up to you. Their shop
specializes in engine remanufacture. They do not rebuild turbos
either, but send them out to be rebuilt. I brought my engine in on a
trailer and came and picked it up the same way. Be sure to chain the
engine down securely with chain clamp-type tighteners as the freeways
down there in the LA basin are in terrible shape and bounce things all
over. I wonder how long we are going to keep kidding ourselves that
grinding down the top surface of roadways poured in the 1950s is a
solution to moving forward with a transportation system? We need
leadership to move to fast rail and soon . . .
I have one thing that I would say is a concern or something to be
aware of when sending your motor to Metric to be remanufactured. Make
sure you take everything off that Metric does not, as it's regular
work flow, put back together. I left my turbo on, and when I went to
get the engine, Metric had not put it back on, as usually they get the
engines with the turbo off. So I had to figure out how to put it
together without the benefit of having taken it apart, which made it a
lot harder. You need to get clear with Mike first exactly what they
put back together in the end. Either negotiate the engine
remanufacture price with everything put back together or make sure you
take everything apart yourself first because putting things together
with no experience taking them apart is difficult.
Other than that miscommunication I am very happy with the engine so
far. I haven't run it yet, obviously, but the thing looks great and
Mike and his crew are extremely helpful and knowledgable.
I took me many, many hours to remove all the peripheral accessories
and pull the engine, and I know it is going to take a few days of
labor to put the motor back in and get everything hooked up. Paying
by the hour for that would take this job into the $13,000 range, I
think. So I would plan on doing the stuff that does not require
special skill yourself, but I think it is a smart idea to leave the
precision stuff to experts who are in practice, have connections with
skilled machine shops for outside work like crank hardening and turbo
rebuilds, and have the equipment in house to do the job right. I
would have over $4500 in parts to do the engine like it is, with newly
rebuilt injection pump and turbo, and I paid only about $1000 more to
have experts do the job and have an engine with a guarantee in case a
mistake was made in the assembly, which I doubt when I see the care
that Metric put into remanufacturing this engine.
They sleeved and replaced with standard pistons at no extra charge.
They did grind my crank, but they send them out to be rehardened after
they grind them and then check for trueness and rebalance them. The
entire engine was shrink wrapped to seal out dirt and dust when I
picked it up and all openings were professionally capped.
Paul
> In another thread, Heav wrote:
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heav - 24 Jun 2007 14:05 GMT
If you have excessive blowby you will just be playing "Whack a Mole"
if you try to stop oil from leaking. 160,000 is kind of low milage to
need a rebuild, but there are several possiblities as to why the
engine could be worn early. Are you sure the speedometer was not
changed out for a lower mileage one before you bought the car?
Maybe they did not change the oil often enough and so much dirt got in
the engine it got ground down early.
I got 396,000 out of my engine, changing the oil every 2000 miles, but
it hasn't been like driving a new car for a long time. It's been hard
to start on cold mornings and leaked enough oil to leave a mess
anywhere I parked for years. It will be great to drive with out
leaking oil all over the place. And the car will be much more
pleasant to work on without all that black grease and grime
everywhere.
Paul
> In another thread, Heav wrote:
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Tom Plunket - 29 Jun 2007 01:59 GMT
> If you have excessive blowby you will just be playing "Whack a Mole"
> if you try to stop oil from leaking. 160,000 is kind of low milage to
> need a rebuild, but there are several possiblities as to why the
> engine could be worn early. Are you sure the speedometer was not
> changed out for a lower mileage one before you bought the car?
Heh, yeah I'm not certain that the odo isn't "new", but the rest of the
car has "little" wear for much more than this. The previous owner
bought it in 1986 and was a mechanic, so I like to think he was a bit
more, umm, honest than your average joe. ...but maybe not. :)
Honestly I also have fantasies of pulling the engine and tearing it down
to the pistons myself. Perhaps I will try some stopgaps 'til I can take
some vacation time, buy a stand and a winch, and have at it. :)
Thanks for the feedback guys,
-tom!
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Tiger - 24 Jun 2007 15:01 GMT
Your engine is too young to be bad... Have you tried running Marvel Mystery
Oil in your diesel fuel... 4 oz to 10 gallons?
The rebuilt motor I told you about is by MB factory. They have diesel motors
ready to go... they will simply exchange your engine at the dealer.
Tom Plunket - 29 Jun 2007 01:41 GMT
> Your engine is too young to be bad... Have you tried running Marvel Mystery
> Oil in your diesel fuel... 4 oz to 10 gallons?
What does that do?
> The rebuilt motor I told you about is by MB factory. They have diesel motors
> ready to go... they will simply exchange your engine at the dealer.
Ok, I'll see what they have to say then. Thanks. Certainly I'd prefer
to not bother though. :)
-tom!
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Tiger - 01 Jul 2007 15:16 GMT
Marvel Mystery Oil will free your piston rings and clean your lube your
injectors. I heard it really reduces blow buy because of sticky rings. You
might see your fuel mileage go up too.
Tom Plunket - 02 Jul 2007 00:27 GMT
> Marvel Mystery Oil will free your piston rings and clean your lube your
> injectors. I heard it really reduces blow buy because of sticky rings. You
> might see your fuel mileage go up too.
Huh, far out. I suppose I should go straight petrodiesel just to be
sure; I'll run the tank down and do a fill with some of this stuff in
there.
(The problems that I am looking to solve were known before I started
running vegetable oil in the engine.)
thanks,
-tom!
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