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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / August 2007

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Glow Plug Removal Problem - Advice Requested!

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tim.beagle@gmail.com - 26 Jul 2007 10:34 GMT
Hi folks,
I finally decided to renew the glow plugs on my '84 300SD and things
went smoothly until I came to the #1 plug.  It wouldn't budge and I
wound up rounding off the darn thing. My glow plug light was working
intermittently, but hasn't lit up in some time.

Where should I go from here? Leave it and run on 4 new plugs? File
down the edges of the plug and hope to remove it?

By the way, I had also updated to the newer relay.

Any assistance greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Tim

Tim Delaney
Stewiacke, NS, Canada
1984 300SD
225,000 km
http://ShillingtonKennels.ca/mercedes
Tiger - 26 Jul 2007 14:59 GMT
84 engine has alot of clearance to get to the glow plug... unlike my 95...
Did you use the right metric deep socket to remove them?

You can try getting sockets that grabs by the center of the hex head rather
than the edge like most... Try stopping by Sears for something like that to
remove the glow plug... Unless you live by a harbor freight... they got a
impact socket set that will take out any bolt.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1038

However, the above set is not a deep socket... but you might be able to get
by. If you do have access problem, then you might have problem with this set
too.
tim.beagle@gmail.com - 26 Jul 2007 22:51 GMT
Hi Tiger,

Thanks for the speedy reply.

I tried a 12mm deep, but it wouldn't grab. Then I went to the spanner,
which slipped and finally the vice grips. Now I've got a bit of a
mess. I've posted a picture of it on my website ( http://shillingtonkennels.ca/mercedes
). We don't have Harbor Freight, but we have an outfit called Princess
Auto. I'll check it out. Maybe there's enough bolt left so I can get a
better socket on it.

Thanks for the inspriation Tiger!

Tim

> 84 engine has alot of clearance to get to the glow plug... unlike my 95...
> Did you use the right metric deep socket to remove them?
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> by. If you do have access problem, then you might have problem with this set
> too.
Tiger - 27 Jul 2007 00:23 GMT
I see it... Darn it! That HarborFreight tool i said can get that out with no
problem.

At this point I am more incline to try the tool I showed you. Sears does
make something similar so go there instead.

Stud remover tool is also another tool contraption you can try too.
Tiger - 27 Jul 2007 03:17 GMT
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?vertical=TOOL&cat=Mechanics+Tools&subc
at=Sockets&pid=00947078000&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes

-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 27 Jul 2007 03:49 GMT
Your '84 300SD is certainly in beautiful condition - like new!

Fortunately this old cast iron cylinderhead is tough as can be. Why not
squirt some penetrating oil onto the reluctant threads, wait a week and
then give it hell! Tiger's Sears socket is certainly an idea.

The GP's center can always be drilled out and an EasyOut used to remove
it but that's the last gasp before pulling the head.

Whatever you do, your car is well worth the effort.
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Richard Sexton - 27 Jul 2007 04:55 GMT
>File
>down the edges of the plug and hope to remove it?

Yes. Don't be afraid to remove the steel fuel delivery rails togeain
better access. It's stupid easy to do and save you lots of tie and heartache.

They just unscrew and screw back on as a unit. Without problems such as
yours you save about half an hour and it costs you less than 5 minutes.

http://articles.mbz.org/engine/diesel/plugs/

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tim.beagle@gmail.com - 30 Jul 2007 13:55 GMT
Thanks for the adivce, folks! I really appreciate it.

I got a "Gator Grip" at Canadian Tire. Unfortunately, it isn't as deep
as it looks and wouldn't snag the head of the glow plug (I'll tuck it
in the tool box for another opportunity!)

I wound up getting another set of sockets (six point instead of the
12's I already had. It seems to be grabbing better. I'm taking TG's
advice and hitting it with WD-40 and giving it some time to penetrate.
I'm sure it'll come around :-)

Richard: Thanks for the tip! I did remove the fuel rail and like you
said, it's a no-brainer.

Tom: Thank you for your kind words. The picture makes the car look
better than it is (I'd call it good restorable condition), but it's
certainly respectable.

I'll follow this up with a quick note once I've successfully completed
the job!

Thanks again,

Tim
Tiger - 30 Jul 2007 16:01 GMT
Lop that electrical stub off so you can get the socket in deeper... Don't
know if that helps with the Gator Grip.

Sometime you can get by with american size... one size smaller and hit it in
for solid grab.
tim.beagle@gmail.com - 31 Jul 2007 15:32 GMT
> Lop that electrical stub off so you can get the socket in deeper... Don't
> know if that helps with the Gator Grip.
>
> Sometime you can get by with american size... one size smaller and hit it in
> for solid grab.

Another excellent suggestion!

Thanks,

Tim
Karl - 31 Jul 2007 19:45 GMT
WD-40 is not worth a damn as a penetrant. Get a REAL penetrating spray like Liquid Wrench, PB
Blaster, Worth Rost-Off etc.

> Thanks for the adivce, folks! I really appreciate it.
>
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>
> Tim
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 02 Aug 2007 00:43 GMT
And after the devil is out, I suggest twirling a 1/4 inch (for metal)
drill in the cavity - just use your fingers to twirl it - to cut the
carbon deposits that are no doubt there. Simple and very easy to do.
Then the new GP will screw right in.
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tim.beagle@gmail.com - 02 Aug 2007 12:56 GMT
On Aug 1, 8:43 pm, "-->> T.G. Lambach <<--" <"T.G. Lambach at
NoHamorSpamcomcast.net"> wrote:
> And after the devil is out, I suggest twirling a 1/4 inch (for metal)
> drill in the cavity - just use your fingers to twirl it - to cut the
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> ? 2007 T.G.Lambach. Publication in any form requires prior written
> permission.

Thanks Karl and Tom! Will do (both).

Tim
 
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