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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / August 2007

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Robert Klemme - 05 Aug 2007 15:34 GMT
Hi,

I noticed I can easily start my E 220 CDI (W210) without preheating
although instructions recommend to preheat.  Is it ok to do so or do I
risk damage in some motor part?  Thanks!

Kind regards

    robert
jdoe - 05 Aug 2007 23:10 GMT
>Hi,
>
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>    robert
I never saw anything about preheating, no do I ever preheat, never had
a problem starting up, I have a w211 e320
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 05 Aug 2007 23:14 GMT
Glow plugs are there to provide easy starts AND less smoke upon start
up. Your car's motor may  seem to start with out waiting for the glow
plugs' cycle to complete but the glow plugs are heating anyway.

In fact the new motors continue the "glowing" for an additional minute
or so after the motor is running to reduce emissions.

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jdoe - 06 Aug 2007 00:24 GMT
>Glow plugs are there to provide easy starts AND less smoke upon start
>up. Your car's motor may  seem to start with out waiting for the glow
>plugs' cycle to complete but the glow plugs are heating anyway.
>
>In fact the new motors continue the "glowing" for an additional minute
>or so after the motor is running to reduce emissions.
true, but in the newer cdis I haven't needed to wait for the plugs to
heat up before starting
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 06 Aug 2007 02:27 GMT
"in the newer cdis I haven't needed to wait for the plugs to
heat up before starting"

Perhaps because these GPs are so fast.

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jdoe - 06 Aug 2007 13:48 GMT
>"in the newer cdis I haven't needed to wait for the plugs to
>heat up before starting"
>
>Perhaps because these GPs are so fast.
and that's where we began, the op was questioning the need to preheat
his cdi before starting
Robert Klemme - 06 Aug 2007 18:13 GMT
>> "in the newer cdis I haven't needed to wait for the plugs to
>> heat up before starting"
>>
>> Perhaps because these GPs are so fast.
> and that's where we began, the op was questioning the need to preheat
> his cdi before starting

So, to sum it up: just start a CDI without preheating.  Even if the GP's
are heating they might do so for a shorter period of time if the engine
is also running (I guess they are temperature controlled).

Thank you for clearing this up!

Kind regards

    robert

PS: the manual then is probably a bit dated. :-)
Dori A Schmetterling - 08 Aug 2007 23:33 GMT
I just had a (Fiat) td on hire for a fortnight.  I kept forgetting to look
at the pre-heat light and started like in a petrol-engined vehicle.  Only
had a hiccup once because I turned the key further immediately immediately,
as opposed to just 1 - 2 s immediately.

Complete difference to my old regular non-turbo (Merc) diesel of 25 years
ago...

DAS

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> So, to sum it up: just start a CDI without preheating.  Even if the GP's
> are heating they might do so for a shorter period of time if the engine is
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> PS: the manual then is probably a bit dated. :-)
 
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