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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / October 2007

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Smelly '84 240D -  how to remove?

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RF - 25 Sep 2007 02:11 GMT
Hi Experts,

The interior of this old car is really smelly - like decomposing plastic
-, especially if I keep the doors and windows closed.

I tried a large dish of baking soda in it for a week, with everything
closed, but there was no change.

I have heard of zeolite crystals that can adsorb odors on the surface
and can release them when exposed to the sun, allowing the crystals to
be re-used. Has anyone tried this, or any other solution, with success?

TIA

RF
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 25 Sep 2007 06:25 GMT
Odd that 23 year old plastic would be off gassing. Suggest you pull up
the floor mats to see if a rain leak isn't the cause of the problem.
Sunroof drains may have rusted out by now to cause such a leak.
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RF - 26 Sep 2007 03:30 GMT
> Odd that 23 year old plastic would be off gassing. Suggest you pull up
> the floor mats to see if a rain leak isn't the cause of the problem.
> Sunroof drains may have rusted out by now to cause such a leak.

Thanks TGL.

Something is outgassing. The car is garaged most of the time and not
very often is exposed to rain. I live in northern California where there
is little or no rain between May and November. I take it out typically
once a week and I pick the dry days. It has not been exposed to rain for
at least six months. I'll remove the mats for a while to see if they are
causing the odor.

RF
DougS - 26 Sep 2007 16:51 GMT
> > Odd that 23 year old plastic would be off gassing. Suggest you pull up
> > the floor mats to see if a rain leak isn't the cause of the problem.
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> RF

Where are the sunroof drains located? I have a similar problem with my
84 300D that I know is letting water in to the rear passenger
floorboard. It has filled up at least twice during summer
thunderstorms, and I can't find the source.
I thought it was the rear passenger door seal, but a trip to the car
wash ruled that out (I think).
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 26 Sep 2007 18:38 GMT
The sunroof drain pipes start at the sunroof well and must go down the
front and center pillars. The only way to know is to look and feed a
wire into each to learn where each terminates. The get clogged with dirt
and debris and eventually rust out.
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Roland Franzius - 26 Sep 2007 19:08 GMT
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- schrieb:
> The sunroof drain pipes start at the sunroof well and must go down the
> front and center pillars. The only way to know is to look and feed a
> wire into each to learn where each terminates. The get clogged with dirt
> and debris and eventually rust out.

The 123 sun roof drains start in the front edges of the black roof frame
and go down at the sides of the front foot room. Rust holes in the roofs
frame are common too. If the smell is like hot soap in  a washing
kitchen (if existing still) its certainly a leak at the connection from
heater motor side to radiator at the firewall.

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weelliott@gmail.com - 26 Sep 2007 20:53 GMT
Incidentally, I had horrible cigarette smoke smell in my car when I
bought it and tried something I had been told by a coworker. I put
ground coffee in the car. I went to the supermarket and got some nice
smellign beans, ground them, and put them in the ashtray and sprinkled
them on the rubber floormats. That combined with airing it out as much
as possible for about two to three weeks got rid of the smell
entirely. Then again it has vinyl seats, so the only place for an odor
to really hide is in the carpet.
RF - 04 Oct 2007 06:04 GMT
> Incidentally, I had horrible cigarette smoke smell in my car when I
> bought it and tried something I had been told by a coworker. I put
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> entirely. Then again it has vinyl seats, so the only place for an odor
> to really hide is in the carpet.

I suspect that the plastic in the seating is slowly decomposing. The
carpets are relatively thin - not much material to decompose -  and they
are covered with the plastic mats. I had a good sniff at those plastic
mats and they seem to have no odor, whereas sniffing the seats and their
backs does seem to have some.

RF
DougS - 26 Sep 2007 21:53 GMT
> -->> T.G. Lambach <<-- schrieb:
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> Roland Franzius

Thanks for those comments, I'll check that out this weekend before it
rains again. Thankfully, the garage doesn't leak, but I don't have
covered parking at work, so its still an issue right now. My current
solution is to remove the rear floor mat and pad, and open one of the
drain holes in the floor to drain the water. Yes, its that much water,
even sloshing around one night driving home.
RF - 04 Oct 2007 06:09 GMT
> -->> T.G. Lambach <<-- schrieb:
>> The sunroof drain pipes start at the sunroof well and must go down the
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> kitchen (if existing still) its certainly a leak at the connection from
> heater motor side to radiator at the firewall.

I have no water problem and certainly no battery problems - battery is
almost new. Possibly that radiator leak but then I don't often have to
top up the radiator. Is the connection you mentioned inside the engine
compartment? - hopefully not under the dash.

TIA

RF
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 26 Sep 2007 18:34 GMT
I live there too and know the conditions well. Two thoughts come to
mind: a coolant leak from the heater core or battery acid corrosion
that's pierced the firewall, behind the battery.
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