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-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- schrieb:
> The sunroof drain pipes start at the sunroof well and must go down the
> front and center pillars. The only way to know is to look and feed a
> wire into each to learn where each terminates. The get clogged with dirt
> and debris and eventually rust out.
The 123 sun roof drains start in the front edges of the black roof frame
and go down at the sides of the front foot room. Rust holes in the roofs
frame are common too. If the smell is like hot soap in a washing
kitchen (if existing still) its certainly a leak at the connection from
heater motor side to radiator at the firewall.

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Roland Franzius
weelliott@gmail.com - 26 Sep 2007 20:53 GMT
Incidentally, I had horrible cigarette smoke smell in my car when I
bought it and tried something I had been told by a coworker. I put
ground coffee in the car. I went to the supermarket and got some nice
smellign beans, ground them, and put them in the ashtray and sprinkled
them on the rubber floormats. That combined with airing it out as much
as possible for about two to three weeks got rid of the smell
entirely. Then again it has vinyl seats, so the only place for an odor
to really hide is in the carpet.
RF - 04 Oct 2007 06:04 GMT
> Incidentally, I had horrible cigarette smoke smell in my car when I
> bought it and tried something I had been told by a coworker. I put
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> entirely. Then again it has vinyl seats, so the only place for an odor
> to really hide is in the carpet.
I suspect that the plastic in the seating is slowly decomposing. The
carpets are relatively thin - not much material to decompose - and they
are covered with the plastic mats. I had a good sniff at those plastic
mats and they seem to have no odor, whereas sniffing the seats and their
backs does seem to have some.
RF
DougS - 26 Sep 2007 21:53 GMT
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> Roland Franzius
Thanks for those comments, I'll check that out this weekend before it
rains again. Thankfully, the garage doesn't leak, but I don't have
covered parking at work, so its still an issue right now. My current
solution is to remove the rear floor mat and pad, and open one of the
drain holes in the floor to drain the water. Yes, its that much water,
even sloshing around one night driving home.
RF - 04 Oct 2007 06:09 GMT
> -->> T.G. Lambach <<-- schrieb:
>> The sunroof drain pipes start at the sunroof well and must go down the
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> kitchen (if existing still) its certainly a leak at the connection from
> heater motor side to radiator at the firewall.
I have no water problem and certainly no battery problems - battery is
almost new. Possibly that radiator leak but then I don't often have to
top up the radiator. Is the connection you mentioned inside the engine
compartment? - hopefully not under the dash.
TIA
RF