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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / October 2007

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Buying a 1992 300SE...Need Help!

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gabelectric - 30 Sep 2007 07:11 GMT
Hello....I am new to the group, sorry if this or similar has been
posted before.

I am being offered a 1992 300SE  for $2,500 with 249,000 miles on it.
It is a beauty inside and out, inmaculate exterior and interior, very
well kept, only problem I could find was that the back window on
passengers side takes a really long time to roll back up (it rolls
down normal), other than that everything seems fine. I am just a
little concerned about the high miles on it....what is the normal
engine and transmission life expectancy on this model, expected
repairs, how much do I have to put aside for yearly repairs/service
etc?.....basically, is it worth it to buy this benz with that amount
of miles on it.

Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
Tiger - 30 Sep 2007 14:13 GMT
I would say skip it... the tranny along will cost you far more than you paid
for the car. Unless the owner already replaced the tranny.

W140 body that you are looking at are notoriously expensive car to maintain.
$2500 is cheap though... If the owner can produce all the service records,
then I'd jump... otherwise, I probably would take my chance with it and that
is because I know how to fix Mercedes...

Otherwise, it is a speculation... you can have a MB specialist look over the
whole car and advise you.
gabelectric - 30 Sep 2007 23:42 GMT
> I would say skip it... the tranny along will cost you far more than you paid
> for the car. Unless the owner already replaced the tranny.
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> Otherwise, it is a speculation... you can have a MB specialist look over the
> whole car and advise you.

Thanks for the fast reply....

So the only major worry should be the transmission? I don't think that
the owner has ever replaced the tranny but he says that all
maintenance services have been done in a timely manner. With that said
do you think the tranny will still need to be replaced soon?

Gabe
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 01 Oct 2007 00:39 GMT
Ditto to Tiger's comments. 250K is, IMHO about the useful life of a
reasonable maintained engine and transmission. This is definitely NOT
the best way to enter the M-B world. If you want a M-B, look for a E300
/ E320 with 100K to 150K miles and a service record. Much more
manageable proposition than this big tank.
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gabelectric - 01 Oct 2007 07:02 GMT
On Sep 30, 4:39 pm, "-->> T.G. Lambach <<--" <"T.G. Lambach at
NoHamorSpamcomcast.net"> wrote:
> Ditto to Tiger's comments. 250K is, IMHO about the useful life of a
> reasonable maintained engine and transmission. This is definitely NOT
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> ? 2007 T.G.Lambach. Publication in any form requires prior written
> permission.

Thanks a LOT for the guidance.....I think I am going to pass on this
one and keep looking....I have always loved MB and been longing to be
the owner of one, and I was so Gun-Ho to jump on this one....but as
T.G. said....this is definitely not the way to enter the M-B
world ;-)

I will let you guys know of my next offer...

Best regards,

Gabe
Dr_Chino - 05 Oct 2007 02:34 GMT
Thats true, im owner of a 1993 w140
in my country i spend recently like US$ 2.000 in fix tranny ( mecanic
was a friend)
inyectors for my model cost US$ 1.000 each one!!!!
somebody tells me i can change all inyectors and inyection rail from a
W124 3.2 24 valv
hope so.....

> I would say skip it... the tranny along will cost you far more than you paid
> for the car. Unless the owner already replaced the tranny.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Otherwise, it is a speculation... you can have a MB specialist look over the
> whole car and advise you.
gabelectric - 05 Oct 2007 18:23 GMT
WOW....I am so glad I took the advice and decided against buying
it.....I would have not been able to afford the maintenance.

Regards,

Gabe
Dr_Chino - 06 Oct 2007 01:16 GMT
=)
seek a W124 3.2 24 valv

> WOW....I am so glad I took the advice and decided against buying
> it.....I would have not been able to afford the maintenance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gabe
Jens - 07 Oct 2007 10:46 GMT
> Thats true, im owner of a 1993 w140
> in my country i spend recently like US$ 2.000 in fix tranny ( mecanic
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Anyway, W124 3.2 24 valve has basically same engine and transmission
as W140 3.2.(104 engine), and lifetime/maintenance cost are the same.
Difference in ma?ntenance cost is in the body parts (suspension,
electric/vacuum control parts etc.). And here it really costs,
particularly if you are not diy.

My 1991 W140 3.2 (in Europe they started in 1991) has run 500.000
miles. Head was rebuild 150.000 miles ago. Engine and transmission
runs perfectly alright. Just made a 4.000 miles trip across the alps
with a 1.6 tons caravan and 4 people. Only problem was a tendency to
overheat at full load uphill (outside temperature was around 40C).

Suspension though needs some care now (ball joints, bushings, springs
etc.).

So, be careful but not scared with W140. It has a lot of qualities
too.

/Jens
me - 07 Oct 2007 13:51 GMT
On Oct 5, 3:34 am, Dr_Chino <xtremene...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thats true, im owner of a 1993 w140
> in my country i spend recently like US$ 2.000 in fix tranny (
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Anyway, W124 3.2 24 valve has basically same engine and transmission
as W140 3.2.(104 engine), and lifetime/maintenance cost are the same.
Difference in maíntenance cost is in the body parts (suspension,
electric/vacuum control parts etc.). And here it really costs,
particularly if you are not diy.

My 1991 W140 3.2 (in Europe they started in 1991) has run 500.000
miles. Head was rebuild 150.000 miles ago. Engine and transmission
runs perfectly alright. Just made a 4.000 miles trip across the alps
with a 1.6 tons caravan and 4 people. Only problem was a tendency to
overheat at full load uphill (outside temperature was around 40C).

Suspension though needs some care now (ball joints, bushings, springs
etc.).

So, be careful but not scared with W140. It has a lot of qualities
too.

Jens,

As I recall thus was the firest year for the "sealed transmission"
that has no dip stick or requiremnt to change the fluid? Just curious,
what )if any) maintenance has been done on your transmission?
Jens - 08 Oct 2007 08:46 GMT
> On Oct 5, 3:34 am, Dr_Chino <xtremene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

It still has dip stick.
Rob - 01 Oct 2007 05:13 GMT
> Hello....I am new to the group, sorry if this or similar has been
> posted before.
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>
> Thanks!

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