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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / October 2007

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79 240D Ring gear problem

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runbiodiesel - 11 Oct 2007 01:21 GMT
Has anyone out there ever heard of the ring gear on the fly wheel
coming loose? I was having trouble starting my car where I would just
here the starter motor whir. Naturally I thought the started was bad
and just not engaging. After the second replacement starter I realized
something else was at play and discovered that the ring gear was able
to spin on the fly wheel.

Can anyone explain this to me and what the fix is before I tear into
it?
Karl - 11 Oct 2007 02:36 GMT
The ring gear is a press-fit onto the flywheel. You get a new one, #47 here:
http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.asp?TP=1&F=123123&M=616%2E912&GA=722%2E117404&G
M=716%2E005210%2C214+++++++717%2E400&CT=M&cat=004&SID=03&SGR=015&SGN=01

and get a oxy-acetalyne touch with a rosebud tip and heat it red hot, then
put it on the cold flywheel, 41 or 44 in the above link. When it cools, it
shinks and tightens on the wheel.

If your ring gear has not cracked and split, leading to it being loose, then
you need a new flywheel with the ring gear on it. The old one will no longer
hold a new ring gear tight.

> Has anyone out there ever heard of the ring gear on the fly wheel
> coming loose? I was having trouble starting my car where I would just
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> Can anyone explain this to me and what the fix is before I tear into
> it?
runbiodiesel - 11 Oct 2007 23:19 GMT
> The ring gear is a press-fit onto the flywheel. You get a new one, #47 here:http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.asp?TP=1&F=123123&M=616%2E912&GA=722...
> and get a oxy-acetalyne touch with a rosebud tip and heat it red hot, then
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I'm taking it apart today. I thought about trying the drilling and
pinning option too. I'll see what's what when I get in there.

If I do need a flywheel, does anyone know where I can get one? Looking
at the usual sources, I only see ring gears and flywheel bolts!?

Thanks for the info!
cognite tute - 11 Oct 2007 16:35 GMT
> Has anyone out there ever heard of the ring gear on the fly wheel
> coming loose? I was having trouble starting my car where I would just
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Can anyone explain this to me and what the fix is before I tear into
> it?

If you can access the flywheel, why not drill holes inthrough ring gear
into the fly wheel, and driving a pin through to hold the gear in place.

did in on another car I had, pontiac, if I remember right.  worked for
until I sold the car.

j.
 
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