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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / November 2007

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Tony Pike - 24 Nov 2007 02:54 GMT
Also I have noticed that the electric front windows are inoperative, no heat on front and back windows, but motor warms up o.k. There are 2 black plastic relays on the outside firewall (about the size of the old matchboxes) that have small burn marks on their tops. Does this mean that they are blown and what do they control? Also a clear plastic relay that "looks" good.
Any suggestions well appreciated.....
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 24 Nov 2007 19:45 GMT
Window switch activates a relay which powers the window motor a/k/a
"regulator".
Suspect the relays you found may be for the windows, others here may
confirm that.
The question is why are those relays burned?
Perhaps the switches are dirty and stuck ON, or the regulators are
shorted - who knows without further investigation?
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Tony Pike - 24 Nov 2007 20:59 GMT
Thanks T.G.,
                   Nope, I removed them and replaced after using electronic
spray cleaner. Still no luck....
   No idea why they are burned. Any suggestions anyone please???
> Window switch activates a relay which powers the window motor a/k/a
> "regulator".
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Perhaps the switches are dirty and stuck ON, or the regulators are
> shorted - who knows without further investigation?
Tony Pike - 25 Nov 2007 04:52 GMT
Hi Group --
           There is another stupid problem now. I went to start the car
today only to find no turnover at the starting motor. So I retrieved my
multimeter to test the voltage. I was disappointed to see the battery tested
o.k. at 12.34 volts ( engine off of course)     I heard an slight continual
"electric Noise" on the 3 plastic relays that I mentioned earlier during
continual ignition "on" - hoping this could be related  to the other
problems - rear defrost (blower type), headlight wipers not working and
windows not working. Hopefully this can be sorted out, winter is here
already. Any suggestions appreciated.
           Regards.
                           Tony

> Thanks T.G.,
>                    Nope, I removed them and replaced after using
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>> Perhaps the switches are dirty and stuck ON, or the regulators are
>> shorted - who knows without further investigation?
Tony Pike - 25 Nov 2007 04:59 GMT
> Hi Group --
>            There is another stupid problem now. I went to start the car
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>>> Perhaps the switches are dirty and stuck ON, or the regulators are
>>> shorted - who knows without further investigation?
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 26 Nov 2007 00:30 GMT
The Neutral Safety switch is often to blame for such no cranking
problems. Wiggle the shifter, try it, move the shifter from P to L and
back to P try it, and try it in N.
Switch is in the left side of the transmission (looking from the car's
front).
If nothing found there suggest the starter as the next suspect.
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Tony Pike - 27 Nov 2007 20:22 GMT
Thank you, she does start in N
T.P.
> The Neutral Safety switch is often to blame for such no cranking problems.
> Wiggle the shifter, try it, move the shifter from P to L and back to P try
> it, and try it in N.
> Switch is in the left side of the transmission (looking from the car's
> front).
> If nothing found there suggest the starter as the next suspect.

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