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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / January 2008

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Clanking Catalytic Converter

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Bill Johnson - 05 Jan 2008 20:16 GMT
Hi again guys,

Turns out that the clanking noise I described in the previous thread
on chain slap was coming from inside the right catalytic converter of
my 380sl.  It's particularly noticeable when I start the car on cold
mornings, and dissipates shortly afterwards, as it warms up, for
reasons I don't fully understand.

I had a custom mufffler shop put the cat  -- - a Walker universal, I
think -- on  for me about 5 years ago, because the straight pipe
system they had made for me was too loud. So, replacing the cat at
this point should be fairly easy.

I suspect that something inside the cat, like a baffle,  broke off,
but why it stops shortly after the car starts running is a mystery.
Has anybody seen this before, and does anyone happen to know who makes
the best universal cat. At this point,  I'm considering Goerlich.
Magnaflow, Eastern, and D.E.C.

Thanks very much for any advice anyone can give me on cats, and for
the previous responses.
roland franzius - 05 Jan 2008 21:21 GMT
> Hi again guys,
>
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> the best universal cat. At this point,  I'm considering Goerlich.
> Magnaflow, Eastern, and D.E.C.

Probably a broken welding spot fixing the cat's body position inside the
muffler. Since the cat is hotter when burning than the sourrinding
muffler case it stucks fixed when the body is expanding by heat.

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Tiger - 06 Jan 2008 14:54 GMT
Sounds like the ceramic inside broke off... this is due to overly rich
engine running condition.

Go with Magnaflow and make sure it is the right size... alot of time with
like DEC or any aftermarket, they put in a too small cat. Go here to find
out which one you need.

http://www.car-sound.com/

Shop on ebay and have a muffler shop weld it in.
Bill Johnson - 06 Jan 2008 17:39 GMT
>Sounds like the ceramic inside broke off... this is due to overly rich
>engine running condition.

Hmmm! Sounds reasonable. My car has been emitting quite a bit of white
smoke when I start it up, and after it sits for a while. Could this be
due to the rich mixture, too -- as the coolant and transmission fluid
levels are normal, and there isn't any water in the  oil. OTOH, 3
plugs were oily when I recently changed them. So, I may need valve
stem seals, too.

Should I try adjusting the mixture myself and, if so, how? Or should I
just take it to a shop with an emissions tester?

>Go with Magnaflow and make sure it is the right size... alot of time with
>like DEC or any aftermarket, they put in a too small cat. Go here to find
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Shop on ebay and have a muffler shop weld it in.

Why weld it in, Tiger? If I use clamps, I can cut it out, and replace
it myself.

Thanks very much for all the help.
Tiger - 07 Jan 2008 03:10 GMT
Fix the valve stem seals first... the oil really does kill the cat. Fuel
mixture is easy to adjust too... with a 2.5mm long allen key... on hot
engine... adjust counterclockwise 1/8 of a turn at a time... then squirt a
tiny bit of carb cleaner into the intake...

What we want is no change or tiny bit rise in engine speed. Clockwise is
enrichening... so with a squirt on rich mixture, engine will stumble. Tiny
squirt is like quick on off... hardly any stream of cleaner squirt out...
hard to explain... it is not like we are trying to flood the engine with
cleaner... just a squirt.

Clamp is fine too... weld is better.
 
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