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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / February 2008

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Older MB diesel start switch question

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runbiodiesel - 02 Feb 2008 02:58 GMT
This is just informational, not a problem per se:

I have a '79 240D, '82 300TD, and '81 300SD. They are all quirky in
their own ways but there is one common quirk I've always been curious
about. If you turn the key to crank the engine and it doesn't start
(or starts and dies, or you turn it off) you have to turn the key all
the way out to the lock position take it out and put it back in to
make it crank again. There is some kind of lock that prevents you from
just turning it back to crank.

Why?
Karl - 02 Feb 2008 04:40 GMT
You should not have to pull the key out. Just turn it all the off till it
stops and turn it back to crank. It is there so you cannot engage the
starter after it is running.

> This is just informational, not a problem per se:
>
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>
> Why?
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 02 Feb 2008 07:52 GMT
So one doesn't "start" an already running engine!
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runbiodiesel - 03 Feb 2008 08:22 GMT
On Feb 1, 11:52 pm, "-->> T.G. Lambach <<--" <"T.G. Lambach at
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> So one doesn't "start" an already running engine!
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> © 2008 T.G.Lambach. Publication in any form requires prior written
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Well that's a sensible idea. I've never seen it on any other car I've
had.Thanks to you both!
weelliott@gmail.com - 04 Feb 2008 13:20 GMT
> Well that's a sensible idea. I've never seen it on any other car I've
> had.Thanks to you both!

I had a 75 BMW 2002 that had that feature also.
DougS - 04 Feb 2008 14:26 GMT
On Feb 4, 8:20 am, "weelli...@gmail.com" <weelli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well that's a sensible idea. I've never seen it on any other car I've
> > had.Thanks to you both!
>
> I had a 75 BMW 2002 that had that feature also.

My 2000 VW Jetta was the same way also. Apparently, its a German
thing.
Roland Franzius - 04 Feb 2008 17:09 GMT
DougS schrieb:
> On Feb 4, 8:20 am, "weelli...@gmail.com" <weelli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Well that's a sensible idea. I've never seen it on any other car I've
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> My 2000 VW Jetta was the same way also. Apparently, its a German
> thing.

They began to use this kind of starter in all cars with engines so
silent you dont hear it idling as a step on the way  to
maintainence-free engines. A rotating flywheel destroys its tooth rim
and the cantilever pinion if engaged by chance. The 700 rpm idling rev
makes about 10 times the maximal rev of the starter rotating at 3000
rpm.

Today of course the most important feature is the computer. The control
unit has to know if a starting attempt was unsuccessfull. Therefore a
parameter reset before the next starting attempt is mandatory.

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