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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / February 2008

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300E Bad Cat Converter ?

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Tube Audio - 26 Feb 2008 01:51 GMT
Hi

I just had my emissions / smog check here in California and the NOx were
really high.  Very close to failing.

I suspect a bad cat.  I measure the temp of the cat with a fluke infrared
and measured 245C or 473F.  The temperature was the same at the front,
middle and back of the cat.   The car was running at operating temp, I did
this after I came home from work and the water temp was near 100C

Shouldn't the reading be closer to 426C or 800F?

Ideas?  It looks like the original cat , the car has 175,000 miles
Karl - 26 Feb 2008 02:38 GMT
You got your monies worth out of that cat. You need a new one.

Do NOT just weld in a tiny POS cheapo cat. Get a real one WITH the pre-cat.
Like this one:
http://www.car-stuff.com/carparts/mercedesbenz300e19861989decmb2212c264172.html

> Hi
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> Ideas?  It looks like the original cat , the car has 175,000 miles
Tube Audio - 26 Feb 2008 03:20 GMT
thanks for the reply, at first I thought you meant buy a new car. :')

I live in California but the car is from the east coast, so I should NOT get
the California CAT?

how about the catco for $255?

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/details/QQMercedes_BenzQQ300EQQCatcoQQCatalyti
c_ConverterQQ19861992QQ9717.html


> You got your monies worth out of that cat. You need a new one.
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>> Ideas?  It looks like the original cat , the car has 175,000 miles
Karl - 26 Feb 2008 04:35 GMT
Why do I not see a cat in that exhaust??  Why does that so-called cat not
look like any USA exhaust??

Open your hood and look down where the exhaust bolts to the exhaust
manifold. Do you see pre-cats there?

Go here and look at the lower exhaust in the picture. That is what you
should have.
http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.asp?TP=1&F=124030%5F501&M=103983%5F505&GA=722%2
E320&GM=717%2E430&VIN=%2A&CT=F&cat=501&SID=49&SGR=060&SGN=02


> thanks for the reply, at first I thought you meant buy a new car. :')
>
> I live in California but the car is from the east coast, so I should NOT get
> the California CAT?
>
> how about the catco for $255?

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/details/QQMercedes_BenzQQ300EQQCatcoQQCatalyti
c_ConverterQQ19861992QQ9717.html


> > You got your monies worth out of that cat. You need a new one.
> >
> > Do NOT just weld in a tiny POS cheapo cat. Get a real one WITH the
> > pre-cat.
> > Like this one:

http://www.car-stuff.com/carparts/mercedesbenz300e19861989decmb2212c264172.html

> >> Hi
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> >> Ideas?  It looks like the original cat , the car has 175,000 miles
Peter W. Peternouschek - 26 Feb 2008 04:10 GMT
Not so fast mit der schpending off der big bucks
Check the EGR valve, either clean or replace, also vacuum lines
Peter

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> Ideas?  It looks like the original cat , the car has 175,000 miles
Karl - 26 Feb 2008 04:38 GMT
You would be surprised at how little a EGR valve lowers NoX.
EGR lowers combustion temps to stop the formation of NoX. NoX forms when
combustion temps exceed 2500 F.

The cat controls about 95% of NoX.

> Not so fast mit der schpending off der big bucks
> Check the EGR valve, either clean or replace, also vacuum lines
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> > Ideas?  It looks like the original cat , the car has 175,000 miles
 
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