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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / May 2008

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Mercedes 380 SL knocking

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somecarnut@gmail.com - 24 May 2008 07:25 GMT
If anyone knows, what could be the source?
I think it's the catalytic converter, but my friend thinks it's a
colapsed lifter.
The noise goes away when RPM is raised. Oil pressure is good even in
idle.
This is a 1983 380SL with some 140-150000 miles.
here's a link to listen to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUscE2IaC_8
Thanks any and all opinions.
Ernie Willson - 24 May 2008 12:08 GMT
It sure sounds like a stuck lifter. I cannot understand why it goes away
when you speed the engine up. The first thing I'd do is go to my local
auto store and get an oil additive to free up stuck lifters. YMMV. If it
doesn't work, you are not out a lot of money.

Let us know what the solution is. Good luck.

EJ in NJ

> If anyone knows, what could be the source?
> I think it's the catalytic converter, but my friend thinks it's a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUscE2IaC_8
> Thanks any and all opinions.
Tiger - 25 May 2008 04:40 GMT
Stuck lifter sound can be drastically reduced by switching to synthetic oil.
It will sound alot worse in beginning, but after driving around town, it
will quieten up.
somecarnut@gmail.com - 26 May 2008 23:09 GMT
> Stuck lifter sound can be drastically reduced by switching to synthetic oil.
> It will sound alot worse in beginning, but after driving around town, it
> will quieten up.

Will try both .
thanks, Alex
Paul McKechnie - 24 May 2008 14:11 GMT
If I had to guess, it is NOT a lifter NOR the cat.  It does remind me of a
cracked flex plate (flywheel).  Does it change any from cold to hot?  Does
it still do it at highway speeds?  Any other clues?

> If anyone knows, what could be the source?
> I think it's the catalytic converter, but my friend thinks it's a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUscE2IaC_8
> Thanks any and all opinions.
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 25 May 2008 02:38 GMT
Metallic rattle sounds like the catalytic converter's honeycomb is loose
or broken.
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Tiger - 25 May 2008 04:39 GMT
This cat converter sound is easily checked by hitting with a hammer.
somecarnut@gmail.com - 26 May 2008 23:02 GMT
On May 24, 6:38 pm, "-->> T.G. Lambach <<--" <"T.G. Lambach at
NoHamorSpamcomcast.net"> wrote:
> Metallic rattle sounds like the catalytic converter's honeycomb is loose
> or broken.
> --
>
> © 2008 T.G.Lambach. Publication in any form requires prior written
> permission.

liestsed
somecarnut@gmail.com - 26 May 2008 23:03 GMT
On May 24, 6:38 pm, "-->> T.G. Lambach <<--" <"T.G. Lambach at
NoHamorSpamcomcast.net"> wrote:
> Metallic rattle sounds like the catalytic converter's honeycomb is loose
> or broken.
> --
>
> © 2008 T.G.Lambach. Publication in any form requires prior written
> permission.

Thanks for confirming. That's what i thought
Jens - 26 May 2008 21:23 GMT
On May 24, 8:25 am, "somecar...@gmail.com" <somecar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> If anyone knows, what could be the source?
> I think it's the catalytic converter, but my friend thinks it's a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> here's a link to listen to it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUscE2IaC_8
> Thanks any and all opinions.

The knock is one per revolution and goes away when engine is
accellerated in speed. It comes again at a specific point near idle
when deaccellerating the engine speed.

A stuck lifter would to my opinion not go away at higher revolutions
that way... just the contrary, and the sound would not be that sharp.

It sound more like something with engine suspension or anything on or
near the engine (with some mass) being loose. At low rpm's the engines
displacecement due to vibration will be higher, and at higher rpm's
whatever is loose will not be able to follow the vibration.

I once had exactly same symptom. It turned out to be the shock
absorber for the belt tightener, which had lost its rubber bushing,
causing the bolt to knock at the perimeter of the shock absorber
fixing hole - only at low rpm's. The sound was difficult to locate,
and I too spend a lot of time looking for at stuck lifter.

So, look for something simple.
somecarnut@gmail.com - 26 May 2008 23:06 GMT
> On May 24, 8:25 am, "somecar...@gmail.com" <somecar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
> So, look for something simple.

Point well taken, will research some more. Thanks
 
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