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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / June 2008

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Changing belts 1983 300D Turbo

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aaron - 24 Jun 2008 17:53 GMT
Greetings,

Last Friday my a/c belt snapped and flew off on I-85 somewhere near
ATL's airport. I did not know that it happened as I thought my ac had
just pooped out. I had given it a charge 2 weeks ago and it ran very
well until Friday. Anyway when I looked into the engine compartment, I
saw that the belt was nowhere to be found. I also noticed that there
was no way to replace that belt without replacing the power steering
belt as well. I have a diagram of how the belts are supposed to go.
However, I have never done this before and I was looking for some
aid.

Here is where I am: I need to replace the a/c belt. Since the power
steering belt is blocking access to the AC belt, that will be replaced
as well. I have the tools necessary to do the job, though I have no
tension tester. I can get the belts at NAPA for around 35 bucks. I
know how the belts fit. I do not know how to adjust the tension,
remove the belts and put the new ones on without forcing them. Again,
I have a diagram and pics of some of the bolts that need to be
loosened, but some bolts I cannot find.

Any tips or helpful hints?

Aaroon
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 24 Jun 2008 22:48 GMT
Replacing the PS belt is at your option, it's not required if the belt
isn't worn and/or cracked.

The PS pump has a belt tensioning bolt (at least mine does) so one
loosens its mounting bolts and detentions the belt until it can be removed.

Others will have to guide you on the A/C mounts and belt tension.
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Cordy - 25 Jun 2008 08:05 GMT
aaron ha scritto:
> Greetings,
>
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>
> Aaroon

You might want to check a service manual. If you can't find it, even an
Haynes manual in a book shop in your area I'd suggest to look for it
using figator.com or a similar method.
jch - 25 Jun 2008 20:31 GMT
 > Here is where I am: I need to replace the a/c belt. Since the power
> steering belt is blocking access to the AC belt, that will be replaced
> as well. I have the tools necessary to do the job, though I have no
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> I have a diagram and pics of some of the bolts that need to be
> loosened, but some bolts I cannot find.
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I did this job recently on my 1985 W123.133 300D Turbodiesel.  I had to
replace the alternator belts.  This means that both AC and power
steering belts must come off.  Using the photos in the Mercedes W123
Maintenance manual is was able to locate the correct bolts/nuts.
However, some are indeed tough to see, and some are difficult to reach.
  I remember having to use a length of wood to move the AC compressor
enough to extract the belt.  Like Mr. Lambach said, there is no need to
replace the power steering belt if it looks OK.

If you want a copy of the relevant sections of the PDF formatted manual,
please contact me at < c o n t r e x AT s h a w DOT c a>.
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Regards / JCH
heav - 26 Jun 2008 16:11 GMT
I would not recommend getting belts from NAPA.  At least at the NAPA
stores locally here in California I have found from experience that
they don't actually stock belts in metric sizes, but estimate and then
sell Imperial unit belts that are "close" to the right size.  I
recently had to replace an AC belt that I bought at NAPA because it
was just a centimeter or so too long and could not be adjusted tight
enough.

You should use CONTI brand belts, which are the original equipment
equivalent belt.

I bought the AC belt and spare I have on/in the car now at AutoHauz
at:

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=1zfral45xoqnj355shsxmcj5&makei
d=800016@Mercedes&modelid=1194320@300TDT&year=1983&cid=belt@belt&gid=8900@V%20Be
lt/Drive%20Belt


AC belt is $6.57  Power Steering belt is $7.89  buy some other stuff
you will always need like oil filters and when get your order to $50
shipping is free.

You can download a .pdf file of the pages from the Mercedes Bench
manual for working on the belts here:

http://inyopro.com/belts.pdf
jch - 26 Jun 2008 18:56 GMT
> I would not recommend getting belts from NAPA.  At least at the NAPA
> stores locally here in California I have found from experience that
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> You should use CONTI brand belts, which are the original equipment
> equivalent belt.
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I agree totally with this recommendation.  I usually get mine from a
local garage that specialises in Mercedes repairs.  They are a lot more
reasonable than the official Mercedes Dealership.  The issue is always
one of proper fit.  Once you get the correct belts(s), there is no waste
of time and effort, because you know that the belts will fit.  I needed
to replace the alternator belts a month ago.  They come as a matched
pair.  Matching belts is very difficult to achieve with NA supplied items.

There is a bit of a story behind the replacement of alternator belts.  I
installed a rebuilt Bosch alternator unit into my W123 turbo diesel car
(340,000 km).  For some reason the pulley had "some" rust on it.  I
ignored the rust to my detriment.  The belts made the tell tale
"squeeling" on acceleration after about one week.  I re tightened them.
 A week later the same problem occurred; belts too loose again!  Why?
Simple; the hard, abrasive rust was enough to grind away the much softer
vee-belts in a hurry.  So, i pulled the rebuilt alternator, and swapped
the pulley from the original alternator to the rebuilt unit.  After
reinstalling the alternator and replacing the belts all was well again.
 The belts remained tight as they should.
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Regards / JCH

 
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