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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / September 2008

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1993 300 SL 5 speed stick

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Homer - 17 Sep 2008 03:53 GMT
I have a 1993 300 SL 5 speed stick with about 54,000 miles and drive it
about 3500 miles a year.  About two weeks ago I drove it after about 2
months in the garage.  It was very hard to start and keep running.  With the
idle about 700 rpm when the accelerator was pushed down the engine would
stall.  So I kept the rpm at 1500-2000 when stopped.  The engine did not
want to go over 4000 rpm.  After about 10 miles it seemed to run normally
and would go up to nearly 7000 rpm. I went to see my mother who lives about
35 miles away.  Coming back it started and ran normally.  The next day it
started and ran normally.  It then sat in the garage again for two weeks.
Saturday it was difficult to start and would stall.  I came back and turned
around in my neighbor's driveway when it stalled across the street.  I had
to crank the engine for about 20 minutes before it would start.  Sometimes
it seems like it would fire on some cylinders but not all, other times not
firing at all.  Since the car runs fine after about 10 minutes/miles I
thought it might be some kind of sensor or brain problems at initial
startup.  Someone else says some type of fuel delivery problems keep fuel
from the engine and that is causing the starting problems.  I would like to
take the car to my mechanic on Friday or Monday with some idea of what might
be causing the problem since by the time I get there [25 miles] it will
probably be running nearly perfectly again.
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 17 Sep 2008 07:19 GMT
Fuel starvation.

If the fuel filter were blocked it would be so all the time so I'd
discount that in favor of a fuel pump (or pumps) problem. The pump may
be somewhat weak or worn after 15 years or just a bit gummy inside.

Before going to Mr. Mechanic I'd put two cans of Techron or equivalent
fuel system / fuel injector cleaner into the fuel tank and give that a
chance (a tank of driving) to work. Chances are good that the problem
will be cured that way, if not, it's on to the fuel pump. But at least
you'll first have ruled out simple gum or dirt in the pump.
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Roland Franzius - 17 Sep 2008 13:05 GMT
Homer schrieb:
> I have a 1993 300 SL 5 speed stick with about 54,000 miles and drive it
> about 3500 miles a year.  About two weeks ago I drove it after about 2
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> be causing the problem since by the time I get there [25 miles] it will
> probably be running nearly perfectly again.

Did you ever get the working temperature? This engine needs a 500 miles
drive at 2/3 max speed at least once a year. Otherwise you are in danger
to clog the engine/idling vacuum system with sooth.

When I bought an 280E with a 110 engine the pre owner (fem.) had driven
it for 50000 miles in 6 years mainly in town and winter and never
managed to reach the correct working oil temperature.

I got a pound of sooth out of the valve cover  and vacuum lines. Made
such a rocket out of a slugish 5 speed manual that even some Porsches
had problems with that acceleration.

Porsche engines have the same kind of problem. These old half ton of an
engine needs to burn about half a gallon or 15 miles to heat up to
working temperature.

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Tiger - 17 Sep 2008 14:12 GMT
All good suggestions as I have no idea what could be causing such problem.
In your case, there are some suggestions:

1. Use synthetic oil and change once a year or so.

2. Make sure your air filter is clean.

3. As TG suggested, run some fuel injector cleaner... Lubro Moly Jectron is
good stuff. Lubro Moly Venti Sauber should be used together too. One for
fuel injection and one for valve.

4. It is possible your fuel filte ris clogged... if you don't keep fuel tank
full, chances of some condensation... but considering you do drive 3500
miles... that's about 12 tanks per year... which should not be an issue.

5. I would say you got some kind of fuel pressure leak... possibility of one
fuel injector is bad or two. Taking out spark plug will reveal which may be
the trouble one. The best test is done by mechanic with fuel pressure gauge
and he physically pull out the injector to see which one is leaking.
-->> T.G. Lambach <<-- - 17 Sep 2008 22:25 GMT
An additional thought: The EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) valve may be
sticking. Others here may know more about the ERG than I and can opine
on this idea.
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