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Montalban, Former Chrysler Pitchman, Dies At 88

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Comments4u - 15 Jan 2009 01:48 GMT
Former Chrysler pitchman Ricardo Montalban, known for the phrase "reeech
Corinthian leather" when referring to the Chysler Cordoba, died Wednesday
morning at home.  He was 88.  Interestingly, in the early Cordoba
commercials, the phrase he used was "fine Corinthian leather".

Montalban's association with Chrysler went far beyond the Cordoba.  He also
did commercials in the early 80s for the K car based LeBarons and New
Yorkers.  And in a subtle touch, a modified Dodge Aspen wagon was featured
on his show Fantasy Island.

Comments have poured in from around the world.  Former DaimlerChrysler CEO
Jurgen Schrempp said "I've aways liked Fantasy Island.  I envy people who
can successfully achieve their fantasies."  Current Chrysler CEO Robert
Nardelli said "This is important... did he cash the last check we sent
him?"

Hollywood reporter Mona Barrett informed William Shatner, Montalban's
adversary in TV and movies, of Montalban's death.  "He was still alive?"
asked Shatner.  "You mean... Genesis *did* work?"

Montalban is survived by fellow former Chrysler pitchmen and women Joe
Garagiola, Jack Jones, Celine Dion, and Lee Iacocca.  The funeral will be
postponed for a few months, so it can be held at the same time as the
Chrysler funeral.
James Hatten - 15 Jan 2009 04:27 GMT
> Former Chrysler pitchman Ricardo Montalban, known for the phrase "reeech
> Corinthian leather" when referring to the Chysler Cordoba, died Wednesday
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> postponed for a few months, so it can be held at the same time as the
> Chrysler funeral.

Kind of insulting to someone who just
lost his life............
swiggy - 15 Jan 2009 05:13 GMT
>> Former Chrysler pitchman Ricardo Montalban, known for the phrase "reeech
>> Corinthian leather" when referring to the Chysler Cordoba, died Wednesday
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> Kind of insulting to someone who just
> lost his life............

If Ricardo doesn't like it, he can always haunt the writer into the grave.
Because I'm a humorist, I'd like my obit to read much in the same vein.

Regardless, nearly every celeb is always open for satirization, even when
they die. And it doesn't matter who it is. Watch SNL this weekend (or any
week-end) and see who'd death they mention in their weekend update segment.
And they pic on everyone.

I still recall with a tear how they informed us that Morris the Cat had
passed away by suicide. He had tried many times before without succeeding
because he always had 9 lives.

SWIGGY
Pete E. Kruzer - 15 Jan 2009 14:50 GMT
Funeral Director Says Interior of Montalban Casket Made of Fine
Corinthian Leather
edward ohare - 15 Jan 2009 15:45 GMT
>Funeral Director Says Interior of Montalban Casket Made of Fine
>Corinthian Leather

Actually it looks like both the legend and orignal posters assertation
are wrong.  Here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL3fbGbU2o
is says "soft Corinthian leather".
Father Guido Sarducci - 15 Jan 2009 18:32 GMT
>>Funeral Director Says Interior of Montalban Casket Made of Fine
>>Corinthian Leather
>
> Actually it looks like both the legend and orignal posters assertation
> are wrong.  Here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL3fbGbU2o
> is says "soft Corinthian leather".

Damn that is one UGLY car.  He looks better driving this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVELhUyLZGk

But I've gotta ask.........

<spoiler space>

Does Don Johnson know Khan stole his mullet?
Dori A Schmetterling - 15 Jan 2009 20:05 GMT
This thread made me look up the commercial, not knowing what the car looked
like.

Nice man, nice voice, shame about the car....

He talks about "tastefulness", but the car sure looks ugly....  That curious
American penchant for mixing vinyl with metal in the roof...

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> Actually it looks like both the legend and orignal posters assertation
> are wrong.  Here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL3fbGbU2o
> is says "soft Corinthian leather".
edward ohare - 15 Jan 2009 20:31 GMT
>This thread made me look up the commercial, not knowing what the car looked
>like.
>
>Nice man, nice voice, shame about the car....

Just a note here that the Cordoba was a huge success, outselling the
Pontiac Grand Prix and Ford Elite, while being higher priced than
either.  The Chevy Monte Carlo outsold the Cordoba, but cost over
$1000 less, pretty significant in in what was then the $4xxx and $5xxx
base price ranges.

>He talks about "tastefulness", but the car sure looks ugly....  That curious
>American penchant for mixing vinyl with metal in the roof...
>
>DAS
>(From London)

Ugly? With Jaguar lamp treatment and a knock off Rolls grill?  <G>
Lloyd - 16 Jan 2009 15:31 GMT
On Jan 15, 3:31 pm, edward ohare
<edward_oh...@nospam.yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:05:11 -0000, "Dori A Schmetterling"
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Pontiac Grand Prix and Ford Elite, while being higher priced than
> either.  

Back then Chrysler was still a high-end brand, more like Buick or
Olds.  That was before years of LeBarons, PT Cruisers, Voyagers, low-
end Town & Countrys, Aspens indistinguisable from Durangos, etc.,
diminished the name plate to the same level as Dodge, Pontiac, or
Mercury.

>The Chevy Monte Carlo outsold the Cordoba, but cost over
> $1000 less, pretty significant in in what was then the $4xxx and $5xxx
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Ugly? With Jaguar lamp treatment and a knock off Rolls grill?  <G>

The first Cordoba was very attractive (75-77, in fact).  Then came the
messing with the styling. getting especially unattractive in 1980.
Bret - 16 Jan 2009 00:48 GMT
> This thread made me look up the commercial, not knowing what the car
> looked like.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> are wrong.  Here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL3fbGbU2o
>> is says "soft Corinthian leather".

I had a '77 Cordoba, and I had always liked the way it looked. The drive
train was pretty reliable, but the body rusted out, both rear leaf spring
shackles broke and the springs poked through the trunk. The passenger side
door could only be opened from the inside, and only if you kicked it open.

Worst of all, the fancy cover on the trunk lock fell off.

Ah, the good old days .......
GMAN - 16 Jan 2009 20:19 GMT
>Funeral Director Says Interior of Montalban Casket Made of Fine
>Corinthian Leather
Except there is no such thing a Corinthian Leather
GK - 18 Jan 2009 16:43 GMT
> Former Chrysler pitchman Ricardo Montalban, known for the phrase "reeech
> Corinthian leather" when referring to the Chysler Cordoba, died Wednesday
> morning at home.  He was 88.  Interestingly, in the early Cordoba
> commercials, the phrase he used was "fine Corinthian leather".

You know I could've sworn that a few decades ago I read where he wasn't
even of any Spanish background and the name and accent was all a fake,
but searching now I see no sign of that.

Oh well.

G
Matthew Russotto - 18 Jan 2009 18:59 GMT
>> Former Chrysler pitchman Ricardo Montalban, known for the phrase "reeech
>> Corinthian leather" when referring to the Chysler Cordoba, died Wednesday
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>even of any Spanish background and the name and accent was all a fake,
>but searching now I see no sign of that.

Not Spanish, but Mexican, born in Mexico City.  Birth name "Ricardo
Gonzalo Pedro Montalban y Merino".  He was the real deal.
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GK - 18 Jan 2009 23:06 GMT
>>> Former Chrysler pitchman Ricardo Montalban, known for the phrase "reeech
>>> Corinthian leather" when referring to the Chysler Cordoba, died Wednesday
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Not Spanish, but Mexican, born in Mexico City.  Birth name "Ricardo
> Gonzalo Pedro Montalban y Merino".  He was the real deal.

Well believe it or not the article back then stated he was some Jewish
guy from New Jersey or somewhere similar and the whole Mexican thing was
an act.

Guess it might not be, who knows?

G
Joe Pfeiffer - 19 Jan 2009 01:13 GMT
>>>> Former Chrysler pitchman Ricardo Montalban, known for the phrase "reeech
>>>> Corinthian leather" when referring to the Chysler Cordoba, died Wednesday
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Guess it might not be, who knows?

"knows" is a strong word.  But the probability that your memory is
better than all available resources is pretty low.
Matthew Russotto - 19 Jan 2009 15:33 GMT
>>>>> Former Chrysler pitchman Ricardo Montalban, known for the phrase "reeech
>>>>> Corinthian leather" when referring to the Chysler Cordoba, died Wednesday
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>"knows" is a strong word.  But the probability that your memory is
>better than all available resources is pretty low.

And even if the memory is correct, the probability that said "article"
appeared on April 1 or in "The Onion" or a similar paper is pretty
high.
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Bill Putney - 19 Jan 2009 22:55 GMT
>>>>> Former Chrysler pitchman Ricardo Montalban, known for the phrase "reeech
>>>>> Corinthian leather" when referring to the Chysler Cordoba, died Wednesday
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> "knows" is a strong word.  But the probability that your memory is
> better than all available resources is pretty low.

On the other hand, I am convinced that our history does get re-written
in subtle ways.  And as ironic as it sounds, the internet makes some of
that re-writing fairly easy (there are companies that, for a fee, will
clean up - i.e., make disappear - negative information on your company
that would come up in a Google search).  There are certain recorded
versions of songs that were popular in their day but that all traces
have disappeared.  Another example: I know damn well that I used to see
documentaries about the McCarthy hearings that included film footage
showing Bobby Kennedy as Attorney General sitting immediately behind
McCarthy whispering advice in his ear as he conducted the hearings.  Yet
- today - without making a political statement one way or the other, I
challenge anyone to find a trace of evidence that those films ever
existed.  How does something like that ever get written out of history
as if it (not the hearings themselves, but the explicit presence and
participation of Bobby Kennedy in them) never happened?

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Father Guido Sarducci - 19 Jan 2009 23:37 GMT
> On the other hand, I am convinced that our history does get re-written
> in subtle ways.  And as ironic as it sounds, the internet makes some of
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> as if it (not the hearings themselves, but the explicit presence and
> participation of Bobby Kennedy in them) never happened?

McCarthy served from 1947 to 1957.
Kennedy was AG from 1961 to 1964.
Bill Putney - 20 Jan 2009 00:40 GMT
>> On the other hand, I am convinced that our history does get re-written
>> in subtle ways.  And as ironic as it sounds, the internet makes some of
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> McCarthy served from 1947 to 1957.
> Kennedy was AG from 1961 to 1964.

Oops - you are correct.  Who's the revisionist now! he said holding up a
mirror.  LOL!

This is what I saw in the documentary films (as described in the article
on Robert Kennedy on wikipedia - I incorrectly assumed it was in his
role as AG): "In December 1952, at the behest of his father, he was
appointed by Republican Senator Joe McCarthy as assistant counsel of the
Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. He resigned in July
1953 but 'retained a fondness for McCarthy.' After a spell as an
assistant to his father on the Hoover commission, Kennedy rejoined the
Senate committee staff as chief counsel for the Democratic minority in
February 1954. When the Democrats gained the majority in January 1955,
he became chief counsel. Kennedy was a background figure in the
televised McCarthy Hearings of 1954 into the conduct of McCarthy."

From the wikipedia artticle on McCarthy: "Robert [Kennedy] was chosen
by McCarthy as a counsel for his investigatory committee."

I guess they still need to purge the wikipedia articles. :)

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Brent - 20 Jan 2009 01:30 GMT
> have disappeared.  Another example: I know damn well that I used to see
> documentaries about the McCarthy hearings that included film footage
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> as if it (not the hearings themselves, but the explicit presence and
> participation of Bobby Kennedy in them) never happened?

It's because the government licensed media was in total control for a
very long time and the government itself just siezes it.

The footage is destroyed or hidden away and then anyone who remembers
seeing it is branded a kook.

It's easy to be branded as a kook just for remembering the news stories
from a few years prior.
Joe Pfeiffer - 20 Jan 2009 03:29 GMT
>> have disappeared.  Another example: I know damn well that I used to see
>> documentaries about the McCarthy hearings that included film footage
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> It's easy to be branded as a kook just for remembering the news stories
> from a few years prior.

Well, no.  Mis-remembering a news story will do it; so will paranoid
claims like you make above.  As for Kennedy and McCarthy, I didn't
find them on youtube, but I did find a still photo that could well be
from it at pbs.org (of all the horrible gummint-controlled places).

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/rfk/gallery/g_05.html
Brent - 20 Jan 2009 03:38 GMT
>>> have disappeared.  Another example: I know damn well that I used to see
>>> documentaries about the McCarthy hearings that included film footage
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Well, no.  Mis-remembering a news story will do it; so will paranoid
> claims like you make above.

Paranoid? You might want to know we were damn lucky to even see the
Zapruder film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapruder_film

Your lack of knowledge of even this important bit of history doesn't
make me paranoid. And by calling me that you just proved my point.

Maybe in 2012 we'll get to see the footage from the pentagon security
cameras... maybe.
Joe Pfeiffer - 20 Jan 2009 04:23 GMT
>>> It's easy to be branded as a kook just for remembering the news stories
>>> from a few years prior.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Your lack of knowledge of even this important bit of history doesn't
> make me paranoid. And by calling me that you just proved my point.

Huh?  We're lucky Zapruder was there filming, but other than that are
you talking about anything specific?  The main point we can see in the
wikipedia entry is that there were lots of copies, and they were used
in the official reports.

> Maybe in 2012 we'll get to see the footage from the pentagon security
> cameras... maybe.

Footage from when?
Brent - 20 Jan 2009 04:46 GMT
>>>> It's easy to be branded as a kook just for remembering the news stories
>>>> from a few years prior.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>> Your lack of knowledge of even this important bit of history doesn't
>> make me paranoid. And by calling me that you just proved my point.

> Huh?  We're lucky Zapruder was there filming, but other than that are
> you talking about anything specific?  The main point we can see in the
> wikipedia entry is that there were lots of copies, and they were used
> in the official reports.

Geebus. read what it took to get it out so people could see it instead
of a few frames.

>> Maybe in 2012 we'll get to see the footage from the pentagon security
>> cameras... maybe.
>
> Footage from when?

11-sept-2001. you know, of all the tapes they took and all the security
cameras of the HQ of the world's most powerful military only a few
frames have been released.

national security you know!
Joe Pfeiffer - 20 Jan 2009 05:32 GMT
> Geebus. read what it took to get it out so people could see it instead
> of a few frames.

Assume I'm stupid.  Tell me what you're alluding to.  I see things
like

   In 1967, Life magazine hired a New Jersey film lab, Manhattan
   Effects, to make a 16 mm film copy of the original Zapruder
   film. Pleased with the results, they asked for a 35 mm
   internegative to be made. Mo Weitzman made several internegatives
   in 1968, giving the best to Life and retaining the test
   copies. Weitzman set up his own optical house and motion picture
   postproduction facility later that year. Employee and
   assassination buff Robert Groden, hired in 1969, used one of
   Weitzman's copies and an optical printer to make versions of the
   Zapruder film using close-ups and minimizing the camera's
   shakiness.

which isn't my idea of anybody trying to cover anything up.

>>> Maybe in 2012 we'll get to see the footage from the pentagon security
>>> cameras... maybe.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> national security you know!

Oddly enough, in real life (as opposed to movies) cameras are set
looking at things where threats are expected, not randomly off onto
the grounds.

Yes, you've established you're a kook.
Brent - 20 Jan 2009 05:58 GMT
>> Geebus. read what it took to get it out so people could see it instead
>> of a few frames.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> which isn't my idea of anybody trying to cover anything up.

6 years later, someone under contract makes copies for the company which
remain unseen. Stop cherry picking in your effort to kookify. I'm not
going to cut and paste http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapruder_film just
to play this silly game of yours.

"Prior to the 1969 trial of New Orleans businessman Clay Shaw for
conspiracy in connection with the assassination, a copy of the film
several generations from the original was subpoenaed from Time Inc. in
1967 by New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison for use at Shaw's
grand jury hearing. Garrison unsuccessfully subpoenaed the original film
in 1968. The courtroom showings of Garrison's copy in 1969 were the
first time it had been shown in public as a film."

It wasn't shown to the public at large until early 1975 when it aired
on TV, 11+ years after the event. Yeah, completely out and the open fast
responding, government and it's licensed media getting the information
out to the people.

Why does the government still keep JFK assassination material secret to
this day? The information is to be disclosed to the public in 2029 or
so as I recall. What hasn't gotten lost or destroyed that is.

But no, there's no 'memory hole'... no secrecy, US government is
transparent and honest.... and the media is a responsive watchdog of the
government even though it has to remain in good favor to have access and
retain its licensing.

Hell only knows what happens to the stuff the public doesn't get to know
even exists.

>>>> Maybe in 2012 we'll get to see the footage from the pentagon security
>>>> cameras... maybe.

>>> Footage from when?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> looking at things where threats are expected, not randomly off onto
> the grounds.

And yet the footage is secret under national security. If it shows
nothing why is it secret?  

> Yes, you've established you're a kook.

because heaven forbid I see the US federal government and most state
governments as governments with the motivations of governments instead
of being magically different and more honest because they're 'american'.

Thanks for proving my point. Mere doubt of our dear leaders total and
complete honesty, a lack of faith, makes one a kook.

It's pretty clear to me you don't want your faith disturbed. so I'm done
with this. it's OT anyway.
Steve - 20 Jan 2009 15:33 GMT
>>>> Footage from when?
>>> 11-sept-2001. you know, of all the tapes they took and all the security
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> And yet the footage is secret under national security. If it shows
> nothing why is it secret?  

I can think of a whole bunch of things that it *might* show, all
completely unrelated to events of 9/11/01, that still shouldn't be released.

Come on, THINK! Just because you get kicked in the a.s there's no reason
to drop your pants voluntarily.
Brent - 20 Jan 2009 16:06 GMT
>>>>> Footage from when?
>>>> 11-sept-2001. you know, of all the tapes they took and all the security
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Come on, THINK! Just because you get kicked in the a.s there's no reason
> to drop your pants voluntarily.

What might security footage from nearby businesses show that couldn't be
seen by visiting said businesses?
Steve - 20 Jan 2009 21:10 GMT
>>>>>> Footage from when?
>>>>> 11-sept-2001. you know, of all the tapes they took and all the security
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> What might security footage from nearby businesses show that couldn't be
> seen by visiting said businesses?

Probably nothing. But then maybe something. And besides, why make it
easier for the bad guys than having to go visit that spot?
Terry del Fuego - 19 Jan 2009 13:29 GMT
>Well believe it or not the article back then stated he was some Jewish
>guy from New Jersey or somewhere similar and the whole Mexican thing was
>an act.

Are you sure you're not confusing this with a similar rumor about
Geraldo Rivera?

http://www.snopes.com/media/celebrity/geraldo.asp
Steve - 19 Jan 2009 18:32 GMT
>> Not Spanish, but Mexican, born in Mexico City.  Birth name "Ricardo
>> Gonzalo Pedro Montalban y Merino".  He was the real deal.
>
> Well believe it or not the article back then stated he was some Jewish
> guy from New Jersey or somewhere similar and the whole Mexican thing was
> an act.

You read that in the Enquirer, or the Star?
 
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