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GM to recall 1.5 million autos

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GasSaver - 15 Apr 2009 23:28 GMT
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 16:53:00 04/14/2009

WASHINGTON -- Troubled US automaker General Motors has informed watchdogs
it will have to recall close to 1.5 million cars amid concerns they could
catch fire, local media reported.

Television network CNN said the firm had reported a potential fuel leak in
some autos built between 1997 and 2003.

The recall includes certain models from GM's Chevrolet, Buick, Oldsmobile
and Pontiac brands.

The Detroit-based firm -- which already faces bankruptcy proceedings --  
said the fault could see oil leak on the exhaust manifold during hard
braking.

On March 30, the US government gave GM, which has received $13.4 billion in
public aid, 60 days to come up with an aggressive restructuring plan to be
eligible for further aid the company says it needs to avoid collapse.

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Steve - 15 Apr 2009 23:43 GMT
| WASHINGTON -- Troubled US automaker General Motors has informed watchdogs
| it will have to recall close to 1.5 million cars amid concerns they could
| catch fire, local media reported.
|
| Television network CNN said the firm had reported a potential fuel leak in
| some autos built between 1997 and 2003.

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It is an OIL LEAK not a FUEL LEAK!

GM recalls about 1.5 million cars: reports
7:16a ET April 14, 2009 (MarketWatch)
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- General Motors Corp. is recalling almost 1.5
million cars made between 1997 and 2003 because of possible engine
fires, according to media reports Tuesday. The recall includes
1998-1999 Oldsmobile Intrigues, 1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix,
1997-2003 Buick Regals and 1998-2003 Chevrolet Luminas, Monte Carlos
and Impalas, the reports said. The problem is related to the potential
for oil drops to fall into the exhaust system and trigger a fire in
the 3.8-liter V6 engine.

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GasSaver - 17 Apr 2009 11:30 GMT
> | WASHINGTON -- Troubled US automaker General Motors has informed
> watchdogs
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> It is an OIL LEAK not a FUEL LEAK!

Are you sure Steve?  "Fuel Leak" sounds right because I heard GM was
concerned about their cars could catch due to fuel leaks near exhaust pipe.
That's what I heard on a radio.  I think GM is right about that.

GasSaver.
Guenter Scholz - 17 Apr 2009 14:32 GMT
    It's an 'oil' leak guys.  the oil could drip onto the exhaust pipe
and cause a 'small' fire which in turn could ignite some plastic nearby. The    
fix is easy and cheap .... lousy timing though isn't it

cheers

>> | WASHINGTON -- Troubled US automaker General Motors has informed
>> watchdogs
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>GasSaver.
GasSaver - 18 Apr 2009 17:20 GMT
>>> | WASHINGTON -- Troubled US automaker General Motors has informed
>>> watchdogs
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>
>>GasSaver.

> It's an 'oil' leak guys.  the oil could drip onto the exhaust pipe
> and cause a 'small' fire which in turn could ignite some plastic nearby.
> The
> fix is easy and cheap .... lousy timing though isn't it
>
> cheers

If that's the case then I wouldn't worry about oil catching fire, because
fuel is sensitive to heat, lubricant oil won't ignite at temperature below
400 degree C, besides air is cooling off your exhaust pipe.  Exhaust pipe's
temperature can't be more than engine temperature (85C - 90C), even if you
double engine temperature on an exhaust pipe, lubricant oil still won't
ignite.  Because the temperature is not near the oil's ignition point
(flash point).

cheers.
news - 18 Apr 2009 16:33 GMT
>>>> | WASHINGTON -- Troubled US automaker General Motors has informed
>>>> watchdogs
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> cheers.

hi
hm not sure about, that I've had motorbike exhausts cherry-red, that's more
like 700C and I'm
pretty sure flashpoint of hydraulic fluid is much less than that -
 I do recall an issue with some Vauxhall's (are or were part of GM) 5 - 10
years back where the (plastic) brake master-cylinder could detach in a
front-ender, land on the manifold and 'explode' ?
cheers
Dori A Schmetterling - 20 Apr 2009 14:48 GMT
Yes, Vauxhall = GM, but who knows for how much longer?  GM has just
announced its intention to spin its European interests (Opel/Vauxhall) off.

DAS

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> hi
> hm not sure about, that I've had motorbike exhausts cherry-red, that's
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> front-ender, land on the manifold and 'explode' ?
> cheers
 
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