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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / December 2004My E500 (Best E Class ever)
I just traded in my 320 CLK and my BMW 525i for a 2004 E500. This is my 3rd E class as I previously owned a '92 400E and a '01 E430. I loved my 400E. In spite of its 195mm tires it was a true drivers car. My '01 E430 was not as delightful although it was a very nice car to drive. My new E500 is simply remarkable. The semi active air suspension allows you to choose between a beautifully controlled marshmallow ride and a typically firm Mercedes ride. The handling is exceptional, squat dive and roll is unmistakably absent. The structure is rock solid as usual. Does anyone know what the resonant frequency is for the new structure and how the figure compares to previous E class models? The extra 21 horses and additional torque of the 5 liter engine along with the 7 speed automatic equal a level of performance never before seen on non AMG models. My first freeway onramp was controlled by a traffic signal. I was surprised that a 1/4 throttle opening resulted in a huge chirp of the Conti's followed by rocket ship acceleration. The sound effects are lovely as well. Options can be kept to a minimum without sacrificing luxury. My only options are the entertainment package and sunroof. I highly recommend giving the E500 serious consideration. I bought mine from Keyon (I am probably spelling it her name wrong) at W.I. Simonson in Santa Monica California. I was very happy with my buying experience. Claude  SignatureBestswimwear.com http://www.bestswimwear.com Shop premium designer swimwear. Online since 1996. Nice to read someone's positive ownership experience, also of good treatment when buying. Gives us hope. > I highly recommend giving the E500 serious consideration. I bought mine > from Keyon (I am probably spelling it her name wrong) at W.I. Simonson in > Santa Monica California. I was very happy with my buying experience. > > Claude Everything about the new E-Class is gorgeous except the new gauge cluster. The oversize clock is seriously out of place, the speedo and tach are very bland and the water temp and fuel things (LCD's? I don't know) are extremely ugly...otherwise the car seems like a step in the right direction, especially in the styling department. Check back in when you've put 100000 miles on the car , let us know if it's held up the way a 50,000.00 car should. -Dana > I just traded in my 320 CLK and my BMW 525i for a 2004 E500. This is my 3rd > E class as I previously owned a '92 400E and a '01 E430. I loved my 400E. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Claude Dana, I am sure that it will be expensive to maintain after the warranty has expired but I am confident that it will hold up. BTW, I noticed that the engine loafs around 1500 RPM at 60 MPH thanks to the 7 speed transmission. Have any of the car magazines reviewed the '04 E500 with the 7 speed auto yet? Claude Bestswimwear.com http://www.bestswimwear.com Shop premium designer swimwear. Online since 1996. > Check back in when you've put 100000 miles on the car , let us know if it's > held up the way a 50,000.00 car should. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > > Claude > Dana, I am sure that it will be expensive to maintain after the warranty has > expired but I am confident that it will hold up. Have you had these expenses, personally, and if so, what required repair? I keep seeing comments like these, but with no particulars. > Check back in when you've put 100000 miles on the car , let us know if it's > held up the way a 50,000.00 car should. I think you've mistaken this for the Ford/Chevy group... > Check back in when you've put 100000 miles on the car , let us know if it's > held up the way a 50,000.00 car should. 50.000? $50k? USD50.000???? Is that the price of a brand new E500 in the states? Damn it, I live in the wrong country (Norway). Here that car cost $200.000. If we could get it at $50k the streets would be full of them. SignatureThomas >> Check back in when you've put 100000 miles on the car , let us know if >it's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >wrong country (Norway). Here that car cost $200.000. If we could get it at >$50k the streets would be full of them. in return for the high price of that car you get womb to tomb services from your government, that is the price to be paid for your brand of socialism --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because of the current email spam attacks my email account is not included, reply via the newsgroups or ask for a valid email address. > >> Check back in when you've put 100000 miles on the car , let us know if > >it's [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > from your government, that is the price to be paid for your brand of > socialism I guess your right in some way but even though we have some very good governmental services car-prices in Norway are way off. As an example I paid about $50k for my '00 E240T half a year ago. Now, the result of this is that many people are driving in 10-20 year old unsafe cars, resulting in many personal injuries in accidents that could have been avoided if people could afford better/newer cars. In our system that you call socialism its not politically correct to talk about cost in regards to human life and hospitalisation, recreation etc. Therefore there exist no numbers that can show the politicians that it would pay off to lower some taxes to prevent other expenses. SignatureThomas > Now, the result of this is that many people are driving in 10-20 year old > unsafe cars, resulting in many personal injuries in accidents that could [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > exist no numbers that can show the politicians that it would pay off to > lower some taxes to prevent other expenses. Some here would argue that a 10 to 20 year old Mercedes is better than a new one. "thomas" <thomas@i.hate.spam> haute in die Tasten: > I guess your right in some way but even though we have some very good > governmental services car-prices in Norway are way off. But Norway does not have any substantial domestic car production, right? So it is a good way to draw high taxes from the people without harming the domestic economy. You can see that with virtually every country which isn't a significant car producer. Frank Signatureplease replace spam-muelleimer with fk-newsgroups for e-mail contact Time Flies Like An Arrow - Fruit Flies Like A Banana A lot of Americans -- especially those reading this newsgroup -- seem to think that when the state does a bit for its citizens using tax money it's "socialism". DAS SignatureFor direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- [........] > > from your government, that is the price to be paid for your brand of > > socialism [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > have been avoided if people could afford better/newer cars. In our system > that you call socialism its not politically correct to talk about cost in [............] > A lot of Americans -- especially those reading this newsgroup -- seem to > think that when the state does a bit for its citizens using tax money it's > "socialism". Right on! Most americans dont know that their government can do anything else for them than lead them into war. SignatureThomas On 4/19/04 5:21 PM, in article 40844361$0$25234$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com, "Dori A Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote: > A lot of Americans -- especially those reading this newsgroup -- seem to > think that when the state does a bit for its citizens using tax money it's > "socialism". > > DAS That would be because it is socialism, not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that. We Americans just don't like the sound of socialism because we can't even trust our non-local (i.e. federal) government with a small hill of beans, much less what is likely the world's largest stream of tax revenue (on an absolute basis). Too much corruption and very little democracy. Perhaps I should have posted in alt.politics.socialism. How in the world did my posting stir up such a political flurry. I just wanted to say that I love my E500. Can't we all just get along? Does anyone know the gear ratios of the new 7 speed auto? Claude SignatureBestswimwear.com http://www.bestswimwear.com Shop premium designer swimwear. Online since 1996. > On 4/19/04 5:21 PM, in article > 40844361$0$25234$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com, "Dori A Schmetterling" [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > much less what is likely the world's largest stream of tax revenue (on an > absolute basis). Too much corruption and very little democracy. > Perhaps I should have posted in alt.politics.socialism. How in the world > did my posting stir up such a political flurry. I just wanted to say that I > love my E500. Can't we all just get along? :-) I think we get along, just fine... Just some of us that are envious. > Does anyone know the gear ratios of the new 7 speed auto? 1st gear 4.377 2nd gear 2.859 3rd gear 1.921 4th gear 1.368 5th gear 1.000 6th gear 0.820 7th gear 0.728 Reverse 1st gear -3.416 2nd gear -2.231 SignatureThomas > Reverse > 1st gear -3.416 > 2nd gear -2.231 There's TWO reverse gears? why? cp > > Reverse > > 1st gear -3.416 > > 2nd gear -2.231 > > There's TWO reverse gears? why? Winter mode. Signature- RODNEY > > > Reverse > > > 1st gear -3.416 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Winter mode. Come to think of it, I could use that too sometimes... cp > >Is that the price of a brand new E500 in the states? Damn it, I live in the > >wrong country (Norway). Here that car cost $200.000. If we could get it at > >$50k the streets would be full of them. > in return for the high price of that car you get womb to tomb services > from your government, that is the price to be paid for your brand of > socialism <gag> cp > > Check back in when you've put 100000 miles on the car , let us know if > it's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > wrong country (Norway). Here that car cost $200.000. If we could get it at > $50k the streets would be full of them. I think you would be hard pressed to get a properly equiped E500 for less than $60,000 us I just sat in one at the local dealership with everything in it (navigation, air suspension, etc.) except the leather / wood steering wheel and it stickered at $55+. It is the best looking M-B in the lineup IMO, I'm glad to hear that people are having positive experiences with it, I'm trying to decide between it and a 5 series BMW. I like the looks of the MB waaaay better, but the BMW is a bit cheaper and I'm concerned about all the remarks in the car rags about the braking and steering systems doing strange things; Claude, have you experienced any of these oddities?? I personally think the optional panoramic sun roof option is one of the coolest things I've seen in a new car in long time, I sat in the back seat and it really seemed to open it up, I think it would really help rear seat passengers on long drives. Now, where are you so I can come over and drive it for a while??? :-) Bob K. > > > Check back in when you've put 100000 miles on the car , let us know if > > it's [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I think you would be hard pressed to get a properly equiped E500 for > less than $60,000 us Hello Bob, The brakes just take a little getting acquainted with. As a Skip Barber graduate, brake pedal modulation and smooth stops are of paramount importance to me. I think that one will have a tendency at first to over modulate the brakes in normal conditions. As you drive the car you soon realize that you are rewarded for being gentle on the controls. I am able to achieve perfectly smooth stops and smooth trail braking. I did rent a 2003 E320 for a few days last year and I was not able to modulate the brakes as well. I'm not sure if it has to do with the airmatic suspension in my E500 or if MB took heed to the reviews and tweaked the brake by wire system. The airmatic is not always totally silent when the bladders fill. The occasional slight groan does not bother me and I assume that it is normal. The ride is just as smooth as can be in comfort mode. In sport mode it is typical Mercedes firm, but still compliant. I cant help but think that the 7 speed auto brings 0 - 60 times to somewhere near 5.5 seconds on a good day. I remember when that was 911 Turbo league. Claude Bestswimwear.com http://www.bestswimwear.com Shop premium designer swimwear. Online since 1996. > I just sat in one at the local dealership with everything in it (navigation, > air suspension, etc.) except the leather / wood steering wheel and it [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I think you would be hard pressed to get a properly equiped E500 for > > less than $60,000 us > Check back in when you've put 100000 miles on the car , let us know if it's > held up the way a 50,000.00 car should. > > -Dana I heard a lot of horror stories about the W140 S Class as well, but at least at 60,000 miles, the vehicle seems well built, solid, and comfortable. I was primed to dump my out of warranty vehicle for something newer with a warranty, but I just may hang in there a while and see what happens. Some of these modern Mercedes may not be as bad as people are claiming. Larry 99 S 420 96 Dodge Viper (Currently all Daimler/Chrysler) Yup, it's one of the best cars Porsche ever made! You will find their name on a plate in your car as well as Recaro branding on the seats. P. > I just traded in my 320 CLK and my BMW 525i for a 2004 E500. This is my 3rd > E class as I previously owned a '92 400E and a '01 E430. I loved my 400E. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Claude >> My new E500 is >> simply remarkable. The semi active air suspension allows you to choose >> between a beautifully controlled marshmallow ride and a typically firm >> Mercedes ride. The handling is exceptional, squat dive and roll is >> unmistakably absent. Yes, the E500 is a nice car, just drove one from Stuttgart to Sweden. One can drive in 100 mph for hours and it is quite and comfortable as one?s living room. In fact it is only when it goes faster than 125 one notices that one is going really darn fast. It is great fun to drive on small twisting roads too. http://www.lowdin.nu/tillf/granna.jpg However, we are less happy with a persistent yellow engine warning light, a mercedes workshop in Lindau said it was ok to drive the car all the way to Sweden, and all functions appear to work, but it should not be there considering that the car had done only 2000 miles and we bought it straight from Mercedes. Per Just curious: where did you cross the sea? Elsinore? Presumably many of those 2000 miles were to take the car home? DAS SignatureFor direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- >>> My new E500 is >>> simply remarkable. The semi active air suspension allows you to choose [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Per |
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