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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / May 2005

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Regular Oil or Synthetic?  Which should I use

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VIPERS969 - 28 Jul 2003 01:46 GMT
I have a 1985 500SEL with 81,500 miles on it.  The car has always had regular
oil ran in it, but I thought of switching to Mobil 1 synthetic.  What is your
suggestions.  And, the owners manual states 87 octane gas, should I follow it,
or go with 92 octane?
marlinspike - 28 Jul 2003 03:25 GMT
I think if you try 92 you will notice a difference (I did with my 380, and I
made sure it wasn't placebo by having someone else fill it up). If you don't
have any leaks with regular oil, go to synthetic. If you still don't have
any leaks HOORAY! With my 380, I had a small leak with regular oil, went to
synthetic, had a better running engine but made a total mess of my driveway
so I had no choice but to switch back (even blend made a mess of my
driveway).
Richard
> I have a 1985 500SEL with 81,500 miles on it.  The car has always had regular
> oil ran in it, but I thought of switching to Mobil 1 synthetic.  What is your
> suggestions.  And, the owners manual states 87 octane gas, should I follow it,
> or go with 92 octane?
Brett - 28 Jul 2003 10:24 GMT
your wasting your time and extra money with synthetics on a car that old
with those miles....
you will gain nothing other than spending more on oil...
higher octane fuel is fine...

Brett..
03, 211 E55

> I have a 1985 500SEL with 81,500 miles on it.  The car has always had regular
> oil ran in it, but I thought of switching to Mobil 1 synthetic.  What is your
> suggestions.  And, the owners manual states 87 octane gas, should I follow it,
> or go with 92 octane?
marlinspike - 28 Jul 2003 12:54 GMT
> your wasting your time and extra money with synthetics on a car that old
> with those miles....

Wouldn't you want to give an older car an oil that makes life easier for it?
Richard
Oliver Keating - 29 Jul 2003 00:11 GMT
> your wasting your time and extra money with synthetics on a car that old
> with those miles....
> you will gain nothing other than spending more on oil...
> higher octane fuel is fine...

The cost of oil is surely a negligable part of the overall running costs of
a car? For the extra protection it gives the engine, especially when cold
synthetic oil is well worth it.

> Brett..
> 03, 211 E55
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> it,
> > or go with 92 octane?
Martin Joseph - 24 May 2005 21:15 GMT
> your wasting your time and extra money with synthetics on a car that old
> with those miles....
> you will gain nothing other than spending more on oil...
> higher octane fuel is fine...

I completely disagree with Brett.  Higher octane fuel in an engine that
doesn't need or use it is a total waste.  Superior oil that keeps an
engine cleaner and running longer is never a waste.

That said,  I am assuming the engine is currently in good shape and has
been maintained according to the schedule.  If it's running poorly or
has problems, then Mobil one is no panacea.

Marty
marlin - 24 May 2005 21:50 GMT
Actually, on older engines with carbon deposits, higher octane fuel is a
good idea. Plus, it allows you to advance your timing a few degrees to get
some more power.

>> your wasting your time and extra money with synthetics on a car that old
>> with those miles....
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>
> Marty
Martin Joseph - 26 May 2005 17:32 GMT
> Actually, on older engines with carbon deposits, higher octane fuel is
> a good idea. Plus, it allows you to advance your timing a few degrees
> to get some more power.

You should never advance your timing beyond the factory spec. in my
opinion.  This is likely to cause excessive heat, regardless of the
fuel used.

Marty
 
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