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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / September 2004

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Oil Cooler Question

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Michelle - 21 Aug 2004 17:15 GMT
In models that have an oil cooler but have no fan associated with it,
will the engine run significantly hotter without it?  It seems like it
would be most effective in wind (such as on the highway); but, in
traffic, where engines are subject to overheating the most, it
wouldn't be as effective.  I ask because mine is defective in a W124
Diesel Turbo (93 300D Turbo) -- it is cracked and I'd like to avoid
replacing it.  Would there be any other adverse consequences...
Bill Ditmire - 21 Aug 2004 17:35 GMT
>Diesel Turbo (93 300D Turbo) -- it is cracked and I'd like to avoid replacing
it.  Would there be any... adverse consequences...

It's a judgement call. Obviously the added cooling capacity of the oil radiator
is most important in high-temp, high-load conditions. If your anticipated
driving conditions are rather more sedentary, it is unlikely that losing that
capacity will affect your engine's longevity.

Bill Ditmire
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T.G. Lambach - 21 Aug 2004 20:01 GMT
These oil coolers have a 195 F. degree thermostat. Their function is to
shed excess heat from the oil. That occurs when one is putting lots of
fuel into the engine as in climbing a long hill or driving at very high
speeds, not while idling in traffic, even with the A/C on.

So you're right about the oil cooler's lack of cooling in traffic -
because it's not needed in that condition. If you remove it be sure the
radiator is in very good condition and take it easy on the long hills.
Michelle - 17 Sep 2004 07:35 GMT
Where is the 195 degree cooler thermostat you are referring to?  Oil
seems to flow in and out of the hoses whenever the engine is
running...

> These oil coolers have a 195 F. degree thermostat. Their function is to
> shed excess heat from the oil. That occurs when one is putting lots of
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> because it's not needed in that condition. If you remove it be sure the
> radiator is in very good condition and take it easy on the long hills.
VCopelan - 18 Sep 2004 01:13 GMT
>michelle9384@yahoo.com  (Michelle) Writes:

>Where is the 195 degree cooler thermostat you are referring to?  Oil
>seems to flow in and out of the hoses whenever the engine is
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>> because it's not needed in that condition. If you remove it be sure the
>> radiator is in very good condition and take it easy on the long hills.

The oil cooler thermostat in the Mercedes 5 cylinder diesels is located in the
oil filter housing.  However, this thermostat does not open a 195 degrees F.
Depending on your model year, they have either a 100 C or a 110 C thermostat.
That would be 212 F or 230 F.  
Michelle - 19 Sep 2004 01:26 GMT
Well, this is a 6 cylinder Diesel...it's an '87 W124 chassis, the only
year for the 6 cylinder in the U.S., I believe, right?  Perhaps the
thermostat is stuck open because it flows in and out of these tubes
even when the engine is cold.

Do any models have a fan in front of the oil cooler?  I understand
that in Europe, if you got a factory-installed hitch, it does have a
seperate fan.

> >michelle9384@yahoo.com  (Michelle) Writes:
>  
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> Depending on your model year, they have either a 100 C or a 110 C thermostat.
> That would be 212 F or 230 F.
Michelle - 19 Sep 2004 01:26 GMT
Well, this is a 6 cylinder Diesel...it's an '87 W124 chassis, the only
year for the 6 cylinder in the U.S., I believe, right?  Perhaps the
thermostat is stuck open because it flows in and out of these tubes
even when the engine is cold.

Do any models have a fan in front of the oil cooler?  I understand
that in Europe, if you got a factory-installed hitch, it does have a
seperate fan.

> >michelle9384@yahoo.com  (Michelle) Writes:
>  
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Depending on your model year, they have either a 100 C or a 110 C thermostat.
> That would be 212 F or 230 F.
 
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