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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / September 2004

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560 SEL brake problem

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Tibor D - 07 Sep 2004 01:26 GMT
Hello,

I'm new to this group... and to newsgroups altogether !

I am noticing 'sponginess' when applying the break pedal on my 1989 560SEL.
I don't think it is due to air in the brake line. There is no noticable
leaks that I can see. Can anyone tell me the correct procedure, or what
clues to look for, in order for me to cancell out a 'master cylinder'
problem?

Thanks in Advance
TD
jeremy - 07 Sep 2004 09:53 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> Thanks in Advance
> TD

How long since you changed the brake fluid? It should be every two years
for optimum performance on the older cars.

JJ
Tiger - 08 Sep 2004 00:19 GMT
Yep, you need to change your brake fluid.
John Simpson - 08 Sep 2004 21:51 GMT
OK, I'll bite! What happens to brake fluid that necessitates (is that a
word?) it be changed???

John

> Yep, you need to change your brake fluid.
Tiger - 08 Sep 2004 22:39 GMT
Brake fluid by nature is hygroscopic... they love to absorb water...  when
they do absorb water, they lower the boiling point of the brake fluid...
Once that happened and fully saturated, the brake fluid will boil under high
stress and create steam... which is what causes sponginess.

Air is compressible, liquid is not compressible... there is no buts... no
but whatsoever... breast implants is not in a rigid casng... LOL...
Martin Joseph - 09 Sep 2004 06:32 GMT
> hygroscopic..

Excellent explanation Tiger!  Except for the breast implants part, that
just was a distraction...

LOL,
Marty
Tiger - 09 Sep 2004 15:10 GMT
LOL... my mind wanders... my mind wanders... LOL
John Simpson - 09 Sep 2004 22:05 GMT
> Brake fluid by nature is hygroscopic... they love to absorb water...  when
> they do absorb water, they lower the boiling point of the brake fluid...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Air is compressible, liquid is not compressible... there is no buts... no
> but whatsoever... breast implants is not in a rigid casng... LOL...

Thank you for the explanation. My mechanic tells me that the fluid is
getting dark and needs to be changed. I just put it on my list of
1000-ways-to-deplete-my-checking-account.
 
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