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Fitting a Mercedes V8 into Ford Cortina 1.6 '80 Mark V?

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Anton - 13 Sep 2004 16:19 GMT
I have a Ford Cortina which firstly had 1.6 4-cyl engine, which I placed
with 2.8 V6 from Sierra XR4i.
But I want more power now .I would like to put V8 , from Mercedes.I wanted
to fit firstly Ford V8, but here ain't any Ford V8's and american V8's in
general.So I gave up on that.Mercedes V8 are more often, here in Croatia,
and in Bosnia.
I'm planning to fit 5.0, from 500 SEL, is there any difference in block
size, between engines in 380, 450, 500, 560 models?
Cooling?Which radiator should I put then?
Transmission?Could Type 9 5speed Ford gearbox be fitted to Mercedes V8?What
conversions do I have to made?
Or, can I connect gearbox shaft from Mercedes ( if i buy engine with
gearbox ) to Cortina propshaft?
Engine mounting?Could I mount ( handlers of engine ) I give someone to made
me that?
What about propshaft?Could propshaft ( and differential ) survive so much
power?
What about installations?
Sorry on my bad english, I'm from Croatia...
P.S.Is the radiator from 2.0 V6 for Cortina enough powerful too cool down
this 2.8 V6 that I have?Just to mention, I don't have visco, because the
propeller is connected directly to engine.
Thanks!
Dori A Schmetterling - 13 Sep 2004 23:21 GMT
I don't know about Ford's naming policy in your part of the world, but in
the UK the Cortina went out YEARS ago.  Should be fun putting a 5 litre
engine in such a chassis...  :-) Will it survive above 160 km/h, or will the
engine take off on its own..?...

:-))
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> I have a Ford Cortina which firstly had 1.6 4-cyl engine, which I placed
> with 2.8 V6 from Sierra XR4i.
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> propeller is connected directly to engine.
> Thanks!
Juergen . - 14 Sep 2004 01:10 GMT
> I don't know about Ford's naming policy in your part of the world, but in
> the UK the Cortina went out YEARS ago.  Should be fun putting a 5 litre
> engine in such a chassis...  :-) Will it survive above 160 km/h, or will the
> engine take off on its own..?...
> :-))
> DAS

Dori, Dori, Dori...
... not only was my first car a Ford Taunus II
Turnier (the German version of the Cortina Estate)
but it also could handle all the power from the
engine very well and I am sure it would have been
able to handle a plus of 50 per cent power very
easily.

Juergen
P.S.: Ok, ok, it was an 1.6 litre with 68 PS... ;-)))
Anton - 15 Sep 2004 16:41 GMT
> I don't know about Ford's naming policy in your part of the world, but in
> the UK the Cortina went out YEARS ago.  Should be fun putting a 5 litre
> engine in such a chassis...  :-) Will it survive above 160 km/h, or will the
> engine take off on its own..?...

Hear is called Taunus, like in other parts of Europe.
I don't understand wha do you mean, by saying went years ago.I hope that you
are not one of those guys who's life moto is mr.Ford's saying.
Yes, it is an old car, but, if you could only see faces of those with new
cars when they look my back lights.
Dori A Schmetterling - 15 Sep 2004 17:50 GMT
Anton

I was just imagining putting a very big, maybe fairly modern, engine into an
older body with older suspension etc

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> > the UK the Cortina went out YEARS ago.  Should be fun putting a 5 litre
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> Yes, it is an old car, but, if you could only see faces of those with new
> cars when they look my back lights.
Anton - 15 Sep 2004 19:40 GMT
> I was just imagining putting a very big, maybe fairly modern, engine into an
> older body with older suspension etc

Hm, it is not so modern engine, because I'm planning from S class from
80's.As for size of engine, look this :
http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t=68510&highlight=400ci+cortina
Dori A Schmetterling - 16 Sep 2004 14:29 GMT
I admire your dedication.

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> 80's.As for size of engine, look this :
> http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t=68510&highlight=400ci+cortina
admin - 20 Sep 2004 21:11 GMT
Will you put a 3-point star on top of ford's logo

:)

> I admire your dedication.
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> > 80's.As for size of engine, look this :
> > http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t=68510&highlight=400ci+cortina
Stuart&Janet - 14 Sep 2004 00:10 GMT
Dobo Utro,

You have the wrong "Merc" Anton, but I like your style. You need to find a Mercedes group
not a Mercury group. I'm sure most posters on the Mercedes group will be bitching about
cleaning leather rather than engine swaps so Good Luck! StuK

ThunderSnake #11

> I have a Ford Cortina which firstly had 1.6 4-cyl engine, which I placed
> with 2.8 V6 from Sierra XR4i.
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> propeller is connected directly to engine.
> Thanks!
Dori A Schmetterling - 14 Sep 2004 09:55 GMT
1) In the 'real' Merc :-) group we do discuss engines swaps and other such
matters.  Have a look and surprise yourself...

2) Anton has a Ford, so it's not inappropriate he posts into a Ford group,
especially as he made a comment about apparent unavailability of big Ford
engines.

...
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> > propeller is connected directly to engine.
> > Thanks!
Anton - 15 Sep 2004 16:44 GMT
> Dobo Utro,
>
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> ThunderSnake #11

Hm, I think you wanted to say "dobro jutro"?Which means "good morning" on
croatian.
I asked that, and send crosspost, because V8 is a V8, affcourse there are
differences, but there ain't many difference if I put Mercedes or Ford V8,
because I have to make modifications.So that's why I asked in "big-block"
group.
Whole Lotta Tom - 14 Sep 2004 00:24 GMT
> I have a Ford Cortina which firstly had 1.6 4-cyl engine, which I
> placed with 2.8 V6 from Sierra XR4i.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> because the propeller is connected directly to engine.
> Thanks!

Hi, Anton,
As Stuart noted, you might have better luck in a Mercedes forum, or in
alt.autos.rod-n-custom and rec.autos.rod-n-custom as both of those deal in
all sorts of things.  Maybe alt.hotrod will help.  I would like to help, but
I know nothing about Mercedes engines.  Good luck with your project!

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Anton - 15 Sep 2004 16:56 GMT
> Hi, Anton,
> As Stuart noted, you might have better luck in a Mercedes forum, or in
> alt.autos.rod-n-custom and rec.autos.rod-n-custom as both of those deal in
> all sorts of things.  Maybe alt.hotrod will help.  I would like to help, but
> I know nothing about Mercedes engines.  Good luck with your project!

Thanks I'll try...
Gerald L R Stubbs - 15 Sep 2004 23:02 GMT
The message <ci4dia$c8a$1@bagan.srce.hr>
from "Anton" <anton@net.hr> contains these words:

> I have a Ford Cortina which firstly had 1.6 4-cyl engine, which I placed
> with 2.8 V6 from Sierra XR4i.
> But I want more power now .I would like to put V8 , from Mercedes.

Why go to all that trouble ?  Why not go out and buy a car with a
very big engine ?  It would be a great deal cheaper and quicker.
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Anton - 17 Sep 2004 15:36 GMT
> Why go to all that trouble ?  Why not go out and buy a car with a
> very big engine ?  It would be a great deal cheaper and quicker.

Have you ever heard for phrase "car enthusiasm"?
 
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