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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / November 2004

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pool man - 15 Nov 2004 02:02 GMT
now that i have it starting <new relay & glow plugs> am having trouble
getting heat to the cabin

thermostat is fine gage reads 80C

air has always blown out of the dash so i close it off with the slides
in the winter.

the door is open by the foot peddles
<propped open> it will blow warm air but not hot till i turn the car
off.
once restarted it blows hot then cools a
bit once you get it up to speed.

is there a damper door that mixes the out side air with heated air & if
so where is it hiding?
i don't want to pull the console off as it's an 82 and god knows what
will break.

the auto speeds work & the AC in the summer is fine as the mono valve <i
am guessing> closes the flow of coolant when the dial is turned down to
the blue section

and the rear dome lite cover . does it just pop off

thank you

case
Tiger - 15 Nov 2004 21:00 GMT
Sounds like your auxilary pump is not doing the job... Is the heater hoses
hot? If it is just warm, then the aux pump is bad.
pool man - 16 Nov 2004 01:02 GMT
there hot but will check any way.
it seems like after a min or 2 the air cools

also on the hottest setting with the fan
on low it stays hot.

makes me think its mixing cool air with the hot.

any repair books  i can get?

will buy one

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Tiger - 16 Nov 2004 04:48 GMT
No... it definitely sound like aux. pump is not supplying enough hot
coolant.
pool man - 16 Nov 2004 20:27 GMT
ere is the aux pump hiding?
it has a hose from the waer pump to the fire wall?

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pool man - 18 Nov 2004 20:36 GMT
there is no aux ump on my 82 300sd
the heater hose goes to the air cleaner and connects to a section of
pipe then back to the hose.
it then leads to the fire wall.

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Tiger - 19 Nov 2004 00:26 GMT
Strange... I even looked up your 82... I was looking at 83 but still... same
thing, they said you have it... but you don't.. I'll look up the service
manual and see...
pool man - 22 Nov 2004 01:19 GMT
air mix door was binding
it is HOT now.

will see in January if it stays that way

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Martin Joseph - 28 Nov 2004 21:01 GMT
> there is no aux ump on my 82 300sd
> the heater hose goes to the air cleaner and connects to a section of
> pipe then back to the hose.
>  it then leads to the fire wall.

My understanding was this pump is only to help cool the vehicle during
hot soaks (ie the car is shut off)?

Some people seem to eliminate or bypass this aux. pump...

Don't know for sure,  but hoping T.G. or someone with more
knowledge(then me) can explain this.

Marty
Chet Hayes - 29 Nov 2004 15:08 GMT
> > there is no aux ump on my 82 300sd
> > the heater hose goes to the air cleaner and connects to a section of
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> Marty

The aux heater pump is there to circulate cooling water through the
heater core when the car first starts up.  The idea is to get heat to
the cabin faster.  From what I've seen on my 300SD, it only seems to
make a noticeable difference if it's real cold, the car is started and
instead of driving off, you wind up either idling or moving slowly.
Otherwise, as the engine speed increases to normal driving speed, the
aux pump really isn't needed and it shut off after the coolant reaches
a high enough temp.
pool man - 29 Nov 2004 20:07 GMT
well i never got one or it was removed
any way that was not the problem.
got heat now!

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Central Florida - 19 Nov 2004 00:37 GMT
Having read all of the above posts, let me point out that my 82 123 300D
really pisses me off because when everything is off on the climate control,
it defaults to outside vent air. When I shut the thing off, I wish it would
be OFF!! As in No Air!. But not so. The outside air vent control flap,
vacuum controled of course, is hiding behing the glove compartment box. If
that control is bad, it may be letting in full blast cold air. Aux pump or
not, if it's freezing outside, you ain't gonna get warm inside.

Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.
Central Florida - 19 Nov 2004 00:39 GMT
Having read all of the above posts, let me point out that my 82 123 300D
really pisses me off because when everything is off on the climate control,
it defaults to outside vent air. When I shut the thing off, I wish it would
be OFF!! As in No Air!. But not so. The outside air vent control flap,
vacuum controled of course, is hiding behing the glove compartment box. If
that control is bad, it may be letting in full blast cold air. Aux pump or
not, if it's freezing outside, you ain't gonna get warm inside.

Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.
pool man - 19 Nov 2004 01:32 GMT
will sneak a peak Larry
Thanx
not sure where or what position it is sulose to be in but will find out.

AC season is over so i can stap it or what ever

case

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Central Florida - 19 Nov 2004 02:31 GMT
After I bought this car, several years ago, I had problems with the AC. What
I found was enough to piss off the pope. The local "Foreign Car Experts" had
fixed a broken control valve by wraping a rubber band around the flap arm.
When the rubber band broke, .... well you know the rest of the story.

Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.
 
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