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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / November 2004

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The Right Mercedes???

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Thomas Minter - 25 Nov 2004 15:14 GMT
I think I have come to the right place. First, let me say I know
absolutely zero about Mercedes automobiles. This means I don't
know one model from another also.

I have a hunch the Mercedes automobile is a fine machine. I would
like to find a sedan made since 1990 that would suit my tastes and
pocketbook. I am not interested in the large sedan or any of the
sportier models. Is there a classic model that would suit someone
like me . . . car that is fun to drive and own?

I await your expert responses.

Thanks,

Tom
Dori A Schmetterling - 25 Nov 2004 17:30 GMT
Budget?
Location?

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>I think I have come to the right place. First, let me say I know absolutely
>zero about Mercedes automobiles. This means I don't
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> Tom
T.G. Lambach - 26 Nov 2004 05:11 GMT
Your message implies a general indifference to cars. IMHO one must be at
least interested to undertake ownership of an older M-B.

You are probably looking for a 4 door sedan; its engine type and size
will depend upon your local's traffic, your driving - city vs. freeway
etc. Gas engines for performance, diesels for fuel economy.

Of course your capital budget is a factor; for (as with any car) one
wants the most recent model that one can afford. Cars have improved a
lot in the last years.

You should know that the repair costs for M-B cars is very high and
repairs (for M-B or any car) tend to occur in bunches - until one is
ready to scream. If that's not appealing to you then M-B isn't your car,
rather lease a new high volume car model and simply turn it in at the
expiration of its lease and then lease another new car.
Thomas Minter - 26 Nov 2004 13:13 GMT
Thanks T.G. for responding to the message I posted. I guess the reason I
came off as seeming indifferent is that getting another car is not a
crisis.

I am 74 years old and live in Ohio. Last year I purchased a Toyota
Avalon which is a nice car. My wife drives it. I drive an older Honda
Accord.

To me the Mercedes, with the classic looking bonnets, always appeared as
fine machines that only the wealthy could afford.

Before I even try to acquire a Mercedes, I need to educate myself about
the models. As with most automobiles, there is probably the top of the
line, and on down to bare bones. Maybe not.

I thought I would let you know my situation, and maybe you could point
me in the right direction.

Best Regards,
Tom

> Your message implies a general indifference to cars. IMHO one must be at
> least interested to undertake ownership of an older M-B.
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> rather lease a new high volume car model and simply turn it in at the
> expiration of its lease and then lease another new car.
Central Florida - 26 Nov 2004 15:09 GMT
Thomas
Buy the car that looks good to you. You are looking for a fun car. Something
you feel good driving. If you are interested in learning more about it when
it does something you don't like, then jump into this forum (and others) and
some of the "experienced" folks will help you. ("Experienced" - - Oh, I
remember when I broke that! Took all weekend to fix! )

Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.
T.G. Lambach - 26 Nov 2004 19:27 GMT
OK, Tom, I get the picture.

First, consider whether you want a "car" or a classic.

You currently drive a "car", perfectly reliable, safe and comfortable.

A M-B "car", and a pretty good one at that, would be a 300E or E320 from
1987 on. This is a standard four door sedan with a straight six engine,
four speed automatic. Some of these were built with all wheel drive, an
option to have only if one really needs it, IMHO.

I own a '97 E320, it's a nice to drive and a fine freeway cruiser. These
can be bought for as little as $12K and as much as $22K depending on
condition. Always try to buy the newest and best quality M-B that you
can find and afford - for cheap M-Bs are a fool's bargain. The high
repair cost of bringing a beaten car back to a reasonable quality
standard is too high.
All that said, I'm sad to say that a used M-B will have more repairs and
repair cost than a Honda or Toyota. Owning a M-B is an indulgence, like
having a trophy wife - glamorous but expensive.

The second path to consider is to buy a classic. This takes time and
knowledge and one must be an enthusiast to justify the cost. Something
like a a two seat roadster 450SL ('73 to '80), 560SL (mid '80s) are
popular, hold their value relatively well and typically have lower
mileage than their sedan siblings of the same age. These two seaters
have V-8 engines, another version the 380SL (early '80s V-8) is
underpowered, IMHO, for the car's weight.

Old sedans are another area to consider but that subject is simply too
large for this note. Some of these old classics are pretty simple others
are overly complicated and therefore very expensive to have repaired. I
assume by the cars that you now drive, that you, yourself, don't repair
and maintain your cars, if that's true then a classic may not be the
right choice for part of owning an old car is to tinker with it!
I own a '80 300SD, bought new, a larger turbodiesel sedan whose old
technology is all mechanical, relatively simple and can be repaired and
maintained by an owner.

I hope this frames the issue, also see www.mbusa.com and look for prior
models in the site.

Tom
Al - 26 Nov 2004 21:06 GMT
Have you seen the 1986 Mercedes 560 SEL with 16359 miles.
Great car high price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4507295621&ca
tegory=6332

Al

> OK, Tom, I get the picture.
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> Tom
Martin Joseph - 29 Nov 2004 17:28 GMT
<SNIP>

> for cheap M-Bs are a fool's bargain.

I resemble that remark  :~)  Actually if you know what you are doing
you can get a better deal on an older cheaper MB,  BUT as I tell anyone
who asks, if you can't do the repairs yourself....  brace yourself.

Marty
 
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