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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / December 2004The dumbest question ever asked
I have a '82 SD that has no cracks in the dash. First, the not dumbest question: what is the best way to preserve this condition? Now, the dumbest: Would putting a 45+ SPF sunscreen help protect it? It does, after all, block rays that burn skin. > I have a '82 SD that has no cracks in the dash. First, the not dumbest > question: what is the best way to preserve this condition? Now, the dumbest: > Would putting a 45+ SPF sunscreen help protect it? It does, after all, block > rays that burn skin. That is not dumb. .  Signature. 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First, the not dumbest > question: what is the best way to preserve this condition? Now, the dumbest: > Would putting a 45+ SPF sunscreen help protect it? It does, after all, block > rays that burn skin. If you think this is the dumbest question, I suppose that you don't read this group that often? I think they make leather treatments with sunblock, perhaps one of those would be good... Although vinyl probably won't soak too much up, so use it sparingly. Marty Armour-All. Been around for years. Larry In the back yard, under the oak. > Armour-All. Been around for years. > > Larry > In the back yard, under the oak. NEVER, NEVER use Armour-all on vinyl. That is the surest way to create cracking, especially on dashes. Armour-all is a petroleum product that virtually sucks the polymers out of the vinyl creating early cracking. There are better products on the market but make certain you get one that does not have any alcohol or petro products. I know a guy who "saved" a dash by simply wiping lanolin hand creme all over it several times. I'm almost positive Armour-all was developed by someone selling aftermarket replacement dashes. BTW a good dash cover also works wonders to "get rid" of cracks. Someone recommended 303 Products. Do you have any opinion on that? >> Armour-All. Been around for years. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > replacement dashes. BTW a good dash cover also works wonders to "get rid" > of cracks. >NEVER, NEVER use Armour-all on vinyl. That is the surest way to create >cracking, especially on dashes. Armour-all is a petroleum product that No it's not, it's emulsified silcone oil. If it was petrolium based it would say so on the label (by law) and it would burn. Try to light it. >virtually sucks the polymers out of the vinyl creating early cracking. There >are better products on the market but make certain you get one that does not >have any alcohol or petro products. I know a guy who "saved" a dash by >simply wiping lanolin hand creme all over it several times. I'm almost >positive Armour-all was developed by someone selling aftermarket replacement >dashes. BTW a good dash cover also works wonders to "get rid" of cracks. Suntan lotion works too. All these things so is provide a chemical barrier that keeps UV out. In a Canadian winter this couild last weeks. In texas in semmer it might last a day. I once met an organic chemist whotook two hours to explain all this to me. His recommendation? "I use whateevr is on sale. They all do the same thing". SignatureNeed Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org http://www.mbz.org | Mercedes Mailing lists: http://lists.mbz.org 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | Orkut:RS79 Classifieds: http://ads.mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Watches list: http://watches.list.mbz.org One exception is "303" which is a water based product and is in effect a sacrificial polymer and acts like a sun block. Developed for the aircraft industry to protect exterior plastic components. "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, drink in one hand, totally worn out, shouting "...holy sh.t...what a ride!" 29 09.56N 082 10.13W I strongly recommend NOT using Armor-All. Yes, it's been around many years and there are numerous reports of it actually ACCELERATING the cracking of vinyl dash boards. I suggest finding "Aerospace Protectant" by 303 Products. It was specifically developed for the aerospace industry as a sunscreen for products subject to high UV intensity such as those found on aircraft. It can be mail-ordered over the Internet and some Ace Hardware stores carry it. On the bottle label they call it "SPF 40 Sunscreen for your Stuff". It also works well on the sidewall of tires. It protects the rubber and doesn't leave that slick, greasy look and won't discolor the rubber like some of the tire treatments you buy in the chain stores. >I have a '82 SD that has no cracks in the dash. First, the not dumbest > question: what is the best way to preserve this condition? Now, the > dumbest: > Would putting a 45+ SPF sunscreen help protect it? It does, after all, > block > rays that burn skin. > I strongly recommend NOT using Armor-All. Yes, it's been > around many years and there are numerous reports of it actually > ACCELERATING the cracking of vinyl dash boards. > I suggest finding "Aerospace Protectant" by 303 Products. It was > specifically developed for the aerospace industry as a sunscreen [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > slick, greasy look and won't discolor the rubber like some of the > tire treatments you buy in the chain stores. Is there a reason not to use plain old SPF 40? The substances in many of these products are not extensively tested for their effects upon health. I would rather have a cracked dash than cracked DNA. Cancer rates are rising. . Signature. Nothing is the way it is because that's the way it has to be. . 1 HP = 745.69987158227022 Watts 1 PS = 735.49875 Watts . http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm - Current national debt As of 11/02/2004 the National Debt was $7,429,582,471,118.88 As of 11/26/2004 the National Debt was $7,524,685,017,945.74, up 95 billion in the 24 days since the last Presidential election. http://www.cannabisnews.com - stay abreast of marijuana news http://www.norml.com - support marijuana legalization by becoming a member of NORML http://www.mpp.org - support marijuana legalization by becoming a member of MPP http://www.ips-dc.org - the nation’s oldest multi-issue progressive think tank http://narconews.com - learn about the South of the Border drug war . . FOUR MORE YEARS to a 10 trillion dollar national debt! ( $10,000,000,000,000.00 )! . FOUR MORE YEARS until 20% of the federal budget is interest payments on the debt! . . To elaborate, even the stuff in your SHAMPOO hasn't been tested well. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4071401.stm Some far less used auto product is unlikely to be well tested. Every time you use some mystery product you are volunteering to be a lab rat. . Well tha gud ole boyz in tha bak seat says they aint neva gonna rub nona thet there stuff on em ta prevent sun burn! An if ya dont go around nekid wif out no shirts, all ya need ta do iz wear a cap ta keep your forhaid naice an sun free an your kneck turns raight dark laik it otta. An them sure did say they aint gonna shampoo tha dash wif nothin but maybe wipin off sum beer whut haz gotten akcidently spilled on it. mcbrue cleanly under the bridge in the trailer down by the river 96 S420 I am sure it will help prevent skin cancer on your dash. >I have a '82 SD that has no cracks in the dash. First, the not dumbest > question: what is the best way to preserve this condition? Now, the > dumbest: > Would putting a 45+ SPF sunscreen help protect it? It does, after all, > block > rays that burn skin. Assuming you don't have a permanently open sunroof, I am not sure UV is a problem since not much penetrates glass. Even less penetrates a laminated windscreen (with plastic in the middle). > I am sure it will help prevent skin cancer on your dash. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > block > > rays that burn skin. The glass will filter out most of the UV, but not all. Coupled with hours of solar exposure that some cars are exposed to, the use of a UV blocker in a vinyl treatment is a good idea. However, it's the design of 70's - 90's Mercedes dashboards that's the real problem. When subjected to temperature changes, the aluminum sheet dash expands and contracts between the A pillars and will crack the dash material at any weak points. Someone in the group recommended 303 Aerospace Protectant. I went to their site and was impressed. Any testimonials here? > The glass will filter out most of the UV, but not all. Coupled with hours > of solar exposure that some cars are exposed to, the use of a UV blocker in > a vinyl treatment is a good idea. However, it's the design of 70's - 90's > Mercedes dashboards that's the real problem. When subjected to temperature > changes, the aluminum sheet dash expands and contracts between the A pillars > and will crack the dash material at any weak points. >Someone in the group recommended 303 Aerospace Protectant. I went to their >site and was impressed. Any testimonials here? Best bet is to go to the Autopia site. Car detailers and detailing nuts, one of the highest rated interior protectants. 4.31/5 http://autopia.org/review/censura.php?cmd=details&itemid=148 I have a 79 204d, w 3 cracks in dash. I bought a dash cover from Dashmat. Easy solution, works well J. > I have a '82 SD that has no cracks in the dash. First, the not dumbest > question: what is the best way to preserve this condition? Now, the dumbest: > Would putting a 45+ SPF sunscreen help protect it? It does, after all, block > rays that burn skin. |
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