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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / December 2004

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At What Mileage Will I Need Brake Work? 2002 S500

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DaFlaBear - 16 Dec 2004 20:15 GMT
I've got about 26,000 miles on my 2002 S500.
I'm getting a slight squeaking sound in the front brakes when I brake
for a stop sign at a slow speed.
Should I be needing brake pads or other brake work this soon?
Josh - 16 Dec 2004 22:32 GMT
They might need it.  But the stock pads can be a bit noisy/dusty.  There's
no real set mileage - they console brake wear indicator will tell you when
to replace the pads.  Try simply hosing them off to clean off excess dust.

> I've got about 26,000 miles on my 2002 S500.
> I'm getting a slight squeaking sound in the front brakes when I brake
> for a stop sign at a slow speed.
> Should I be needing brake pads or other brake work this soon?
MCBRUE - 17 Dec 2004 01:21 GMT
You are overdue for a brake job. Oh - by the way - it is called a brake job
because it will break you. Probably around 600 for pads only. Of course you
probably also need rotors all the way around. It is a Mercedes, and they do not
last well but they do stop well, especialy at the stealership!

mcbrue honestly under the bridge in the trailer down by the river

96 S420
Juergen . - 17 Dec 2004 04:50 GMT
> It is a Mercedes, and they do not last well but
> they do stop well, especialy at the stealership!

LOL!!

Juergen (having had the chance yesterday to test a
BMW 116i - yikes, _now_ I know the A-Class _is_ better!)
cp - 17 Dec 2004 01:55 GMT
> I've got about 26,000 miles on my 2002 S500.
> I'm getting a slight squeaking sound in the front brakes when I brake
> for a stop sign at a slow speed.
> Should I be needing brake pads or other brake work this soon?

Check out BMV Auto Parts in Richmond, BC  (604)273-3636, they quite reasonable prices and are Benz experts. Though if you can afford
a new S500 you probably won't bother with the hassle to save a couple hundred :-)

cp
pkmaven - 17 Dec 2004 21:52 GMT
It all depends on the individual driver and his driving habits.The shrieking
noise comes from the brake sensors, indicating new pads. If you replace your
brake pads with Mercedes pads or any o.e. like Pagid, your front wheels will
continue to be black from black graphite in the pads. If you want cleaner
wheels that are not black, use Rotex Gold pads (made for all cars and
models) available discounted from coximport.com. The stopping power is the
same as o.e. pads without the black brake dust. P.

> I've got about 26,000 miles on my 2002 S500.
> I'm getting a slight squeaking sound in the front brakes when I brake
> for a stop sign at a slow speed.
> Should I be needing brake pads or other brake work this soon?
trader4@optonline.net - 18 Dec 2004 15:56 GMT
Doesn't this beast also have electronic sensors that should tell you
the pads are worn?  Of course they aren't fool proof, so I'd pull the
wheels and have a look.
marlin - 18 Dec 2004 16:46 GMT
A 2002 is still under warranty and I don't think he should bother with
aftermarket parts because you never know how the dealer will say you're
engine blew up because you didn't use stock pads.
Richard
> It all depends on the individual driver and his driving habits.The
> shrieking
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>> for a stop sign at a slow speed.
>> Should I be needing brake pads or other brake work this soon?
marlin - 18 Dec 2004 16:46 GMT
Oh, and I thought these cars didn't do the shrieking thing but rather the
turn on a light on the dash thing.
Richard
> It all depends on the individual driver and his driving habits.The
> shrieking
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> for a stop sign at a slow speed.
>> Should I be needing brake pads or other brake work this soon?
marlin - 18 Dec 2004 16:46 GMT
You're brakes are probably on their way out, but if the light ain't on they
don't need changing. To get rid of the squeaking, try doing some hard stops.
If you get 26000 miles on pads, you probably drive gently, and brake pads
will eventually squeak at low speeds if you always drive gently.
Richard
> I've got about 26,000 miles on my 2002 S500.
> I'm getting a slight squeaking sound in the front brakes when I brake
> for a stop sign at a slow speed.
> Should I be needing brake pads or other brake work this soon?
DaFlaBear - 19 Dec 2004 02:08 GMT
I pressure cleaned the front wheels/brakes (at the car wash) and did two
semi hard stops (I still hate to do that without cause).
You guys were right, it stopped (at least for now).
Didn't know about the sensor light on the dash.
One of these days I'll get off my a.s and read the owners manual.
Seriously, thanks all you guys.
The dealer won't tell ya this stuff, only "we must service the car
according to factory standards".

" Tomorrow is promised to no one".... Walter Payton, 10/7/84.
marlin - 19 Dec 2004 03:24 GMT
>I pressure cleaned the front wheels/brakes (at the car wash) and did two
> semi hard stops (I still hate to do that without cause).

So, make cause. That thing sgot what, 302hp? Use em.
Richard
Helar Laasik - 19 Dec 2004 10:22 GMT
>>I pressure cleaned the front wheels/brakes (at the car wash) and did two
>> semi hard stops (I still hate to do that without cause).
>
>So, make cause. That thing sgot what, 302hp? Use em.

I would say that if the brakes are not used for what they are meant -
and used *hard* to stop a car instead of dropping speed - the pads and
rotors glaze eventually and there is nothing to apply if needed
urgently. :-(((((
I recently replaced the front pads with Lockheed ones and somehow they
have progressive effect - the effectiveness increases along with the
pad temperature rise. I like that.

Helar
marlin - 19 Dec 2004 18:35 GMT
> I would say that if the brakes are not used for what they are meant -
> and used *hard* to stop a car instead of dropping speed - the pads and
> rotors glaze eventually and there is nothing to apply if needed
> urgently. :-(((((

Only if your pads are utter junk.

> I recently replaced the front pads with Lockheed ones and somehow they
> have progressive effect - the effectiveness increases along with the
> pad temperature rise. I like that.

ALl racing compound pads work like that. They don't come OEM like that
because they have a tendency to squeal, especially if you don't brake hard,
and when cold they don't stop all that great. Get em hot and you're golden
though.
Richard
Martin Joseph - 19 Dec 2004 21:12 GMT
<snip>I recently replaced the front pads with Lockheed ones and somehow they
> have progressive effect - the effectiveness increases along with the
> pad temperature rise. I like that.

As long as it doesn't get too progressive and lock up when it's really hot...
Martin Joseph - 18 Dec 2004 18:35 GMT
> I've got about 26,000 miles on my 2002 S500.
> I'm getting a slight squeaking sound in the front brakes when I brake
> for a stop sign at a slow speed.
> Should I be needing brake pads or other brake work this soon?

This doesn't mean anything.  A certain amount of free play in the pads
can allow for a vibration to occur at certain speeds/brake pressures.

This doesn't mean your pads are worn,  or that anything is wrong.

If you go to an autoparts store, you will see a bunch of products that
are "anti-squeek" products.  These are basically glues that cement the
brake pads to the calipers so that they don't vibrate.

Of course having a mechanic eyeball the pads and verify they still look
like they have some life left doesn't hurt any...
trader4@optonline.net - 19 Dec 2004 14:57 GMT
Yes, sure it COULD be that, but with it suddenly appearing at 26K miles
how can you be so sure that it's not pads worn down?  Not sure on this
car, but some pads definitely have little metal clips designed to make
a warning squeal if the pads wear down too far.  And at 26K, I'd
suspect that before I'd think they suddenly just developed a squeal.
In any case, the only right thing to do is pull the wheels and look,
not guess.
marlin - 19 Dec 2004 18:34 GMT
Benz pads don't have the squeal thing. Also, cars with the squeal thing are
designed to squeal when the brakes are not applied. It's not guessing, it's
knowing.
Richard
> Yes, sure it COULD be that, but with it suddenly appearing at 26K miles
> how can you be so sure that it's not pads worn down?  Not sure on this
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> In any case, the only right thing to do is pull the wheels and look,
> not guess.
 
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