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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / December 2004

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What does the LE stand for?

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sqvrti - 17 Dec 2004 19:27 GMT
I have a 1993 190 LE (That's what it says in the paperwork).  But my Merc
expert can find no reference to the "LE".  Can anyone throw some light on
this, please?  In particular, what is the difference between the E and the
LE?
Rodney T. Grill - 17 Dec 2004 20:00 GMT
>I have a 1993 190 LE (That's what it says in the paperwork).  But my Merc
>expert can find no reference to the "LE".  Can anyone throw some light on
>this, please?  In particular, what is the difference between the E and the
>LE?

Is this simply on your paperwork, or is the car actually badged as a 190LE?
On the 190 badge, the "E" indicated Einspritz (sic?) which is the German
word for fuel injection, meaning that it is a gasoline powered fuel-injected
engine (as opposed to diesel).  An "L" on the badge generally stands for
"licht", which is the German word for "light" as in "sporty".  I don't
recall any 190LE model, but that doesn't mean it did not exist.  Also keep
in mind that MBZ has some "internal" nomenclature for their models that does
not necessarily translate into the same thing as the badge model.  For
example, the current model C230-Kompressor is internally referred to as a
C230WZ.  The "W" indicates it is a "wagen" which is the German word for
"car" or "sedan", as opposed to a coupe (C), a cabriolet-style convertible
(A), a roadster (R), a station wagon (S) or a long-wheelbase sedan (V).  I
am not sure about the "Z" nomenclature, but I believe it has to do with it
being a "sport" model.

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Juergen . - 17 Dec 2004 20:24 GMT
> I have a 1993 190 LE (That's what it says in the paperwork).  But my Merc
> expert can find no reference to the "LE".  Can anyone throw some light on
> this, please?  In particular, what is the difference between the E and the
> LE?

Engine 2.3 gas or 2.6 gas?

For both there were  L imited  E ditions in the US
for the 1993 modelyear:
<http://www.mbusa.com/brand/container.jsp?/overview/overview_engine.jsp?spec=1&su
bNav=overview&yearModelCode=88_190E23LE&class=88_190&rnav=024568&menu=2_0
>

Juergen - 240D AMG (A lways  M ighty  G ood)
sqvrti - 18 Dec 2004 12:31 GMT
It's on a 2 litre petrol/gas saloon.  I have seen similar models with a the
LE badge on it, but there is no badge at all on mine.

It does have alloy wheels, armrest, rear head-restraints, a little bit of
wood trim, etc.  But I don't know if these were just accessories, or even if
the LE was just a package with extras thrown in.  However, it looks like it
has a lowered suspension, and the saleslady did mention sports suspension
(at least I think she did, but it was some years ago now.)

Many thanks for your replies.  Would appreciate any more.

>> I have a 1993 190 LE (That's what it says in the paperwork).  But my Merc
>> expert can find no reference to the "LE".  Can anyone throw some light on
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>
> Juergen - 240D AMG (A lways  M ighty  G ood)
trader4@optonline.net - 18 Dec 2004 15:51 GMT
As I recall, E= Fuel injected gasoline, from the german word for
injected, which starts with E
L= Long wheel base, from german word for long

I'd have to disagree with an earlier poster that said L is for
light/sporty.  Hard to reconcile that with models like 500SEL which
were the flaghship of the line and certainly not light.
sdp1 - 18 Dec 2004 17:10 GMT
>As I recall, E= Fuel injected gasoline, from the german word for
>injected, which starts with E
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>light/sporty.  Hard to reconcile that with models like 500SEL which
>were the flaghship of the line and certainly not light.
The L for "light" (sporty) applies to the SL class. L after an E is
for Long wheelbase. With the L before the E on this model, i don't see
it meaning Longwheelbase at all/ For fuel injected and long wheelbase
it would have been a "190 EL".
Juergen . - 18 Dec 2004 17:17 GMT
> As I recall, E= Fuel injected gasoline, from the german word for
> injected, which starts with E
> L= Long wheel base, from german word for long

That is true e.g. for an 450SEL

> I'd have to disagree with an earlier poster that said L is for
> light/sporty.  Hard to reconcile that with models like 500SEL which

That is true e.g. for an SL320 or an SLK350

> were the flaghship of the line and certainly not light.

With sedans, yes.

Juergen
trader4@optonline.net - 19 Dec 2004 08:12 GMT
Those damn Germans can't keep their letters straight!  Using L's for
different things!  I forgot the obvious SL series.  Thanks for the
correction.
Martin Joseph - 18 Dec 2004 18:41 GMT
> It's on a 2 litre petrol/gas saloon.  I have seen similar models with a
> the LE badge on it, but there is no badge at all on mine.
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>
> Many thanks for your replies.  Would appreciate any more.

Looks like Juergen found the LE...

Is your car brilliant metallic emerald green?
sqvrti - 18 Dec 2004 20:45 GMT
It's a metallic "Rosso Red", a kind of pearlescent finish.  There was
another LE for sale at the time which was Metallic purple......

>> It's on a 2 litre petrol/gas saloon.  I have seen similar models with a
>> the LE badge on it, but there is no badge at all on mine.
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>
> Is your car brilliant metallic emerald green?
MTI - 19 Dec 2004 08:25 GMT
Limited Edition

Near the end of the production in 1993, Mercedes tried to renew some
interest in the W201 by releasing the Sportline, Limited Edtions, Avantgarde
and the Berlin 2000 models.
glenflow55 - 21 Dec 2004 14:57 GMT
You are correct Mark, but in addition MB did/does this to get rid of parts and
vehicle inventory by packing in lots of accessories that are normally extra
cost.  The "NEW" C-class was to arrive and 190 was selling slow.  MB did the
same by offering a LE on the 95 E-class when the redesigned 96 E-class was to
debut in early 1995, and in 99 for the S-class with the "GRAND" editions before
the redesigned 2000 S-class arrived.
 
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