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Mercedes-Benz launches new V6 diesel engine

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greek_philosophizer - 17 Dec 2004 22:51 GMT
( So this replaces the 2.7 and 3.2 liter diesels? )

http://www.autoindustry.co.uk/news/industry_news/news-578pdnneb0

Mercedes-Benz launches new V6 diesel engine

17th December 2004

A new Euro 4-compliant 224 bhp V6 diesel will replace Mercedes’ in-line
five- and six-cylinder engines from spring 2005. It will boast a maximum
torque of 510 Newton metres available from 1,600 rpm. Mercedes-Benz will
offer the V6 engine with a particulate filter as an option in the UK.

At 208 kg the new engine is very slightly heavier than the previous
five-cylinder engine, but its power-to-weight ratio has increased by
more than 20 per cent to 1.08 hp/kg. Newly developed piezo injectors
operate much more rapidly and precisely than the previous engines’
solenoid valves, making five injections per power stroke possible, at a
peak pressure of up to 1600 bar.

- DaimlerChrysler's Chrysler Group expects to save $100 million a year
by building four-cylinder engines in its Global Engine Alliance with
Mitsubishi Motors and Hyundai at two plants in Michigan, Chrysler
announced on 16 December. The "world engine" project, which will yield 2
million engines a year from five plants in South Korea, Japan and the USA.
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Juergen . - 17 Dec 2004 23:31 GMT
> http://www.autoindustry.co.uk/news/industry_news/news-578pdnneb0
> ( So this replaces the 2.7 and 3.2 liter diesels? )

Yes.


The DC press text reads:

New V6 diesel engine by Mercedes-Benz:
Agility and driving pleasure as standard

Stuttgart, Dec 16, 2004
Mercedes-Benz is presenting a new V6 diesel
engine which will replace the previous in-line
five and six-cylinder engines from spring 2005.
With an output of 165 kW/224 hp and a maximum
torque of 510 Newton metres, the Mercedes
six-cylinder is one of the most powerful units
in its class. Thanks to the latest technology,
the exhaust emissions meet the stringent EU4
limits; in addition Mercedes-Benz equips the V6
engine with a particulate filter as standard in
Germany.
The concept of diesel driving pleasure achieves
a new quality with the new CDI engine. As the
successor to the five and six-cylinder in-line
engines it offers an increase in output and
torque of up to 38 percent, ensuring faster
acceleration, brisk intermediate sprints and a
higher top speed. The maximum torque of 510
Newton metres is already available from 1600 rpm,
and remains constant up to 2800 rpm. Accordingly
the new V6 has torque characteristics which are
unsurpassed in this displacement class. In
combination with the unique 7G-TRONIC seven-speed
automatic transmission, this ensures the best
possible exploitation of the remarkable output
and torque potential in any driving situation.

Despite a significantly higher output, the fuel
consumption remains at the exemplary level of
the previous five and six-cylinder diesel engines.

The choice of materials, design, fuel injection
and engine management system reflect the state of
the art. As a world first for a diesel engine in
this displacement and output class, Mercedes-Benz
has developed an aluminium crankcase with cast-in
grey iron cylinder liners for this unit which
makes a major contribution to weight reduction. As
a result, the new V6 weighs a total of only approx.
208 kilograms (acc. to DIN) and is therefore only
very slightly heavier than the previous
five-cylinder engine. The power-to-weight ratio has
increased by more than 20 percent to 0.79 kW/kg –
a major contribution to the outstanding diesel
agility offered by the new engine.

The engine block, components and ancillary units
form a very compact entity, which means that in
future the new V6 will also be installed in Mercedes
model series and 4MATIC variants where no
six-cylinder diesel engine was previously offered.

Fuel injection at 1600 bar and innovative piezo
injectors

Mercedes engineers have refined the common-rail
direct injection system, achieving further progress
in fuel consumption, exhaust emissions and combustion
noise with this third-generation technology. Newly
developed piezo injectors operate much more rapidly
and precisely than the previous solenoid valves, and
ensure a particularly finely metered fuel supply to
the cylinders. This allows the fuel injection to be
even more precisely adjusted to the current load and
engine speed, and now makes five injections per power
stroke possible at a peak pressure of up to 1600 bar.

Electrically controlled intake port shut-off modifies
the turbulence of the intake air as it enters the
cylinders, optimising the combustion process with the
aim of further reducing the fuel consumption and
exhaust emissions.

The likewise new electronic control unit manages all
the engine functions – from the quick-start glow system
and automatic start function to control of the
high-pressure pump. The VNT turbocharger (Variable
Nozzle Turbine) with electrically adjustable turbine
blades, exhaust gas recirculation with a control valve
and intake air throttling are regulated as the situation
requires on the basis of measured data. In addition the
microprocessor exchanges data with the seven-speed
automatic transmission and the Electronic Stability
Program.

Exhaust emissions at EU4 level, particulate filter
as standard in Germany

Thanks to this precise engine management system, the
nitrogen oxide and particulate emissions of the V6
engine are within the strict limits of the EU4 standard.
Two oxidising catalytic converters are responsible for
conversion of the carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons: a
light-off converter located near the engine and a main
converter in an underfloor location.

To reduce soot emissions even further, Mercedes-Benz
offers a maintenance-free particulate filter system
which is standard equipment for the V6 engine in Germany,
Austria, Switzerland and the Netherlands. The filter is
purged without the use of additives by selective
adjustment of different engine functions. Depending on
the operating parameters and filter condition, the
variable third-generation common-rail technology allows
up to two precisely coordinated post-injections with the
aim of specifically increasing the exhaust temperature.
This means that the particulates trapped in the filter
are burned off in a controlled manner.

End of DC press text, Dec 17 2004

The key data of the V6 engine at a glance:
Cylinder arrangement V6
Cylinder angle 72°
Valves per cylinder 4
Displacement 2987 cc
Bore/stroke 83/92 mm
Dist. between cylinders 106 mm
Compression ratio 18 : 1
Output 165 kW/224 hp at 3800 rpm
Max. torque 510 Nm at 1600-2800 rpm*
*In conjunction with 7G-TRONIC
(Source: Another DC press text, Dec 17 2004)

Available from March 2005 (Europe at least)

Juergen
Juergen . - 17 Dec 2004 23:50 GMT
All DC press material from Dec 16 2004 and not Dec 17 2004 - sorry!

Juergen
greek_philosophizer - 18 Dec 2004 00:30 GMT
>>http://www.autoindustry.co.uk/news/industry_news/news-578pdnneb0
>>( So this replaces the 2.7 and 3.2 liter diesels? )
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> With an output of 165 kW/224 hp and a maximum
> torque of 510 Newton metres,

370 pounds of torque for us Americans ( I think )

> the Mercedes
> six-cylinder is one of the most powerful units
[quoted text clipped - 119 lines]
>
> Juergen

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Juergen . - 18 Dec 2004 01:02 GMT
(DC press text reads:)
> > With an output of 165 kW/224 hp and a maximum
> > torque of 510 Newton metres,
> 370 pounds of torque for us Americans ( I think )

Factor is .737 so it is 376 - not THAT bad...   ;-))))

Juergen
greek_philosophizer@hotmail.com - 20 Dec 2004 17:39 GMT
This engine is such an improvement that
if I were in the market for a CDI and I
could wait for it to come out I would.

With the coming new  cleaner diesel in the USA
there is a huge market potential - especially
if the engine makes it into the Dodge/Chrysler
vehicles.

.
Juergen . - 20 Dec 2004 20:28 GMT
> This engine is such an improvement that
> if I were in the market for a CDI and I
> could wait for it to come out I would.

What I wonder is the future gap in the line:

We - in Germany, normal cars - have:
E200CDI 4-cyl inline 2148 ccm with 122 PS (sedan only)
E220CDI 4-cyl inline 2148 ccm with 150 PS
E270CDI 5-cyl inline 2685 ccm with 177 PS
E280CDI 6-cyl inline 3222 ccm with 177 PS
(E270CDI doesn't meet EU4 emission regulations, but E280CDI does)
E320CDI 6-cyl inline 3222 ccm with 204 PS
E400CDI V8 3996 ccm with 260 PS (sedan only)

And in the future we will have:
E200CDI 4-cyl inline 2148 ccm with 122 PS (sedan only)
E220CDI 4-cyl inline 2148 ccm with 150 PS
E300CDI V6 2987 ccm with 224 PS
E400CDI V8 3996 ccm with 260 PS (sedan only)

So there suddenly is a gap between 150 and 224 PS -
E270CDI is a very popular choice as its is a good
compromise between buying cost and power output.

> With the coming new  cleaner diesel in the USA
> there is a huge market potential - especially
> if the engine makes it into the Dodge/Chrysler
> vehicles.

Here again loudmouth Schrempp and his amateur-buddies
have been sleeping deeply not understanding cars,
markets and sales-potential...

Juergen
Arnold Walker - 25 Dec 2004 09:35 GMT
> > This engine is such an improvement that
> > if I were in the market for a CDI and I
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> Juergen
I am not so sure .....about that last statement.
Daimner just signed a contract with the Union workers at the old American
Motors gas engine plant.
To built 40,000 light,medium,and heavy MB diesels, in place of the old Jeep
gas engines.Granted
most will go to Freightliner and Thomas Coach divisions,but Jeep was
included in the extended plans.
greek_philosophizer - 27 Dec 2004 21:12 GMT
>>370 pounds of torque for us Americans ( I think )

> Factor is .737 so it is 376 - not THAT bad...   ;-))))

Possibly to be put in the C class too.....

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2004/12/new_mercedesben.html

Because the engine block, components and ancillary units form a very
compact entity (the “one-box concept”), the new V-6 can be installed in
Mercedes model series—such as the C-class—where no six-cylinder diesel
engine was previously offered.

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On 11/02/2004  the National Debt was  $7,429,582,471,118.88
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billion in the 1 month and 7 days since the last Presidential election.

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