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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / December 2004

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What should I pay for a 1980 300D, Unique Circumstances

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matthew russell - 23 Dec 2004 20:54 GMT
Ok, so through a series of odd events, I have found a 1980 300D for sale.  
I haven't discussed the vehicle at all with the owner, so I can only tell
you what I know from looking at it.

It's has a manual transmission, approximately 250,000 miles on it, and it
hasn't be started or driven in at least five years, possibly six.  The
body looks pretty good, a patch of faded paint on the driver's side door.  
It has some green gunk around the 300D and Diesel lettering, and the hood
ornament is missing.  All four tires are flat and the nuts on the rims
are rusted.  The wipers are in pretty poor condition.  The interior looks
nice, the seats don't look terribly worn.

Now... assuming that the car was in mechanically decent shape before it
stopped being driven, what should I offer the guy for it?  

Also, are there any typical faults that these cars tend to have?  I've
read about gauges that don't work, windows that don't open, and problems
with the sun/moonroof.  Anything else I should know about?

Thanks.
matthew russell - 23 Dec 2004 19:54 GMT
and attainment of goal. (Everyone needs
  to have goals whose attainment requires effort, and needs to succeed
  in attaining at least some of his goals.) The fourth element is more
  difficult to define and may not be necessary for everyone. We call it
  autonomy and will discuss it later (paragraphs 42-44).
 
  34. Consider the hypothetical case of a man who can have anything he
  wants just by wishing for it. Such a man has power, but he will
  develop serious psychological problems. At first he will have a lot of
  fun, but by and by he will become acutely bored and demoralized.
  Eventually he may become clinically depressed. History shows that
  leisured aristocracies tend to become decadent. This is not true of
  fighting aristocracies that have to struggle to maintain their power.
  But leisured, secure aristocracies that have no need to exert
  themselves usually become bored, hedonistic and demoralized, even
  though they have power. This shows that power is not enough. One must
  have goals toward which to exercise one's power.
 
  35. Everyone has goals; if nothing else, to obtain the physical
  necessities of life: food, water and whatever clothing and shelter are
  made necessary by the climate.
Henry Kolesnik - 23 Dec 2004 21:19 GMT
Sounds like a parts car, not much over a $100.00.  It could have all kinds
of problem being parked that long and maybe it's been parked because of a
big problem.  I wouldn't buy without having the opportunity to try to start
it.  that could be a big job.  be careful especially if you don't know much
about diesels.

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> Ok, so through a series of odd events, I have found a 1980 300D for sale.
> I haven't discussed the vehicle at all with the owner, so I can only tell
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>
> Thanks.
matthew russell - 24 Dec 2004 03:28 GMT
> Sounds like a parts car, not much over a $100.00.  It could have all kinds
> of problem being parked that long and maybe it's been parked because of a
> big problem.  I wouldn't buy without having the opportunity to try to start
> it.  that could be a big job.  be careful especially if you don't know much
> about diesels.

Well... like I said, assuming it was perfectly functional before it
stopped being driven, what's the worst that could happen just by not being
started?

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Central Florida - 24 Dec 2004 13:24 GMT
Matthew Russell said...
>> Well... like I said, assuming it was perfectly functional before it
stopped being driven, what's the worst that could happen just by not being
started? <<

Over 80% chance it wasn't running well when it was parked. As for what could
be wrong,...  engine seized, rear end seized, tranny locked up,... if the
engine turns over, then any and/or all of the accessories could be rusted
shut, i.e... ac compressor, alternator, power steering pump,... all rubber
stuff will have to be replaced,... hoses, belts, vacuum fittings, window
seals possibly....

This list is by no means comprehensive. There will be other stuff.

Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.
pool man - 24 Dec 2004 14:09 GMT
getting it started is one thing.
STOPPING it is  quite another

the case, minus a few cans!
Martin Joseph - 25 Dec 2004 08:07 GMT
> Matthew Russell said...
>>> Well... like I said, assuming it was perfectly functional before it
> stopped being driven, what's the worst that could happen just by not being
> started? <<
>
> Over 80% chance it wasn't running well when it was parked.
Nonsense!

I bought a 1987 suburu this way and the only thing wrong with it was a
dead battery.  Sometimes people just lose faith in the vehicle and
write it off,  just because it's sitting doesn't mean it's junk.

Then again with 250,000 miles, there are likely to be some projects ahead.

Use you own judgement.
Central Florida - 25 Dec 2004 23:22 GMT
You hit the 20%.

Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.
Martin Joseph - 26 Dec 2004 02:07 GMT
with hot bread and butter.

Offspring Rolls

Similar to Vietnamese style fried rolls, they have lots of meat
(of course this can consist of chicken, beef, pork, or shrimp).
Who can resist this classic appetizer; or light lunch served with
a fresh salad? Versatility is probably this recipe?s greatest virtue,
as one can use the best part of a prime, rare, yearling, or the
morticians occasional horror: a small miracle stopped short by a
drunk driver, or the innocent victim of a drive-by shooting...

2 cups finely chopped very young human flesh
1 cup shredded cabbage
1 cup bean sprouts
5 sprigs green onion, finely chopped
5 cloves minced garlic
4-6 ounces bamboo shoots
Sherry
chicken broth
oil for deep frying (1 gallon)
Salt
pepper
soy & teriyaki
minced ginger, etc.
1 tablespoon cornstarch dissolved in a little cold water
1 egg beaten

Make the stuffing:
  Marinate the flesh in a mixture of soy and teriyaki sauces
     then stir fry in hot oil for till brown - about 1 minute, remove.
  Stir-fry the vegetables.
  Put the meat back into the wok and adjust the seasoning.
  De-glaze with sherry,
Martin Joseph - 26 Dec 2004 02:40 GMT
> You hit the 20%.
You fabricate statistics...
Central Florida - 27 Dec 2004 12:23 GMT
You ever hear of the eighty - twenty rule? It's universal.

Larry
In the back yard, under the oak.
Central Florida - 25 Dec 2004 23:43 GMT
exactly what your dinner guests will assume!
An excellent way to expose the uninitiated to this highly misunderstood
yet succulent source of protein.

2 human baby rib racks
3 cups barbecue sauce or honey glaze (see index)
Salt
black pepper
white pepper
paprika

Remove the silverskin by loosening from the edges,
  then stripping off.
Season generously, rubbing the mixture into the baby?s flesh.
Place 1 quart water in a baking pan, the meat on a wire rack.
Bake uncovered in 250? oven for 1? hours.
When browned, remove and glaze,
  return to oven and bake 20 minutes more to form a glaze.
Cut ribs into individual pieces and serve with extra sauce.

Fresh Sausage

If it becomes necessary to hide the fact that you are eating
human babies, this is the perfect solution.
But if you are still paranoid, you can substitute pork butt.

5 lb. lean chuck roast
3 lb. prime baby butt
2 tablespoons each:
  salt
  black, white and cayenne peppers
  celery salt
  garlic powder
  parsley flakes
  brown sugar
1 teaspoon sage
2 onions
6 cloves garlic
bunch green onions, chopped

Cut the children?s butts and the beef roast into pieces
  that will fit in the grinder.
Run the meat through using a 3/16 grinding plate.
Add garlic, onions and season
Tiger - 24 Dec 2004 15:11 GMT
Start up the car first and then make an offer... low figure.
JB - 25 Dec 2004 03:12 GMT
Matthew russell wrote:
> Ok, so through a series of odd events, I have found a 1980 300D for sale.  
> I haven't discussed the vehicle at all with the owner, so I can only tell
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>
> Thanks.

Matthew, respectfully, you never stated what your vision or goal for
this car was. How many miles would you like to drive it per year. How
mechanical are you. How much time and money do you have available to
tinker with it. One person said offer $100. I would agree. Another said
80% chance that it has something seriously wrong with it. I would agree.
It probably didn't stop getting driven because the driver was bored with
the car. If you want it or need it to work well, you could be in for a
lot of spend.
JB
1988 300E
1999 E55
 
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