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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / December 2004

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NAG on snow

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A123 - 26 Dec 2004 17:38 GMT
Hello!
I have a nice CLK 320 2003 with automatic NAG. I'm leaving to go skiing for
a pair of weeks. Its my fist time on snow with this car.
Any suggestion or experience with this car and transmission on snow?
Problems, tricks, etc.?

Thanks

Alex

PS. I bought 4 Michelin Pilot Alpin.
Tiger - 27 Dec 2004 04:28 GMT
Leave traction control on.. what is NAG?
SLC Guy - 27 Dec 2004 07:43 GMT
>Leave traction control on.. what is NAG?

That would be the non OEM navigation aid usually found in the
passengers seat.

"Turn down the air conditioning."

"Take the next left."

"Slow down."

"Stop here to get milk"

"Does my a.s look fat in this?"

etc etc
A123 - 27 Dec 2004 11:19 GMT
For NAG I mean the automatic transmission used by CLK 320.
This is the European name for it.
I ask this because here we aren't so used to drive with automatic gear and
tis will be my first time without manual on snow.

Thanks

Alex
Dori A Schmetterling - 27 Dec 2004 11:59 GMT
1)    ???

2)        Where is "here"?

People in 'proper' snow-bound areas in Europe fit chains....  :-)

DAS
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> For NAG I mean the automatic transmission used by CLK 320.
1)    > This is the European name for it.

2)    > I ask this because here
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iNet - 27 Dec 2004 15:22 GMT
>>Leave traction control on.. what is NAG?
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> etc etc

LOL
Thanks - now I need a new monitor, for spitting coffee all over this one.
Funny as hell.

I tried to replace the NAG in my MB with a newer model.  There seemed to be
compatability issues, still not resolved.

Regarding the original post, I'm not trying to intentionally be a jerk, but
I'm going to be one anyway;

Driving is fun.  Driving is not hard. Remember how it was when you were
younger, carefree, you had hair.  You may want to consider going back to
your salesman Biff & asking him how to drive with the $10k option he sold
you that you don't understand.  It is snow for Gods sake - you slow down.

Please, be careful skiing - hips are fragile.  Now speed up to at least
2/3rds of the speed limit & turn your Damn left blinker off - its been on
for half an hour.

"Mercedes SUVs - Cangrats on Buying a vehicle that the only off-roading that
will ever be done is pulling into your garage"
Dori A Schmetterling - 27 Dec 2004 19:14 GMT
By all accounts an M-Class is superior to a BMW X5 in off-road capabilities,
neither of which are true off-roaders, of course, like a Range Rover, but
who cares when people buy images?

DAS
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> "Mercedes SUVs - Cangrats on Buying a vehicle that the only off-roading
> that will ever be done is pulling into your garage"
Gerald L R Stubbs - 28 Dec 2004 00:45 GMT
The message <bGCzd.7342$Of5.5117@nntpserver.swip.net>
from "A123" <Lines@linestools.com> contains these words:
> Hello!
> I have a nice CLK 320 2003 with automatic NAG. I'm leaving to go skiing for
> a pair of weeks. Its my fist time on snow with this car.
> Any suggestion or experience with this car and transmission on snow?
> Problems, tricks, etc.?

If the car gives you a stick which enables you to manually select any
gear,  then use the stick when on snow as though it was a manual
transmission.

The big problem with an automatic transmission is that if it is left to
its own devices the only method of slowing the car down rapidly is by
the brakes.  On ice and snow,  when you apply the brakes you lose
steering as the front wheels will lock-up, even with ABS.

If you use the stick to force the transmission to drop down gears you
will slow down quite rapidly through engine braking on the back wheels
(rear wheel drive car,  which is what I am talking about)  and leave
your front wheels unbraked and thus capable of steering the vehicle.

Depending upon the depth of snow,  or prospect of ice,  you may need
studded tyres or chains for the rear wheels.  The latter is normally the
cheaper option and very effective for a short incursion into winter
conditions.  Drive into the area on your normal tyres,  but if the
conditions get tricky it will take you ten minutes to fit the chains to
the rear wheels.
That will get you most places so long as you don't go off the blacktop.

People who have to drive around on ice for five months of the year,
such as the Norweigans,  normally use high-grip,  lugged and studded
tyres during that period,  changing them for normal tyres during the
summer months.   In your situation chains are by far the most sensible
option.
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All the best,
Stubbsy.

Martin Joseph - 28 Dec 2004 01:37 GMT
> People who have to drive around on ice for five months of the year,
> such as the Norweigans,  normally use high-grip,  lugged and studded
> tyres during that period,  changing them for normal tyres during the
> summer months.   In your situation chains are by far the most sensible
> option.

Or you good actually spring for quality snow tires which perform better
then studs on most snow and some ice too...  Plus they don't destroy
the roads.
AL69 - 28 Dec 2004 23:55 GMT
thanks!

> > People who have to drive around on ice for five months of the year,
> > such as the Norweigans,  normally use high-grip,  lugged and studded
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> then studs on most snow and some ice too...  Plus they don't destroy
> the roads.
 
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