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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / January 2005

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1998 C230 Rear End Noise??

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Boelkowj - 07 Jan 2005 03:16 GMT
Sent an email before but will try again..Have any of you owners had troubles at
all with rear end noise on a C230 MB. ?? I had a seal leak at 12k and fixed but
now I hear a possible whine (not sure) between 20 and 30 mph.. Is this possible
or am I getting worked up over "nothing" and just imagining things?? Car runs
great otherwise at 60 K miles.. Thanks again

larry
pool man - 07 Jan 2005 04:09 GMT
check the fluid in the rear end.

also when you hear the noise shift  to a lower gear but keeping the same
speed.

if the noise goes away look at the tranny
for problems along with power steering pump & the like running off the
belts.

the case, minus a few cans!
Rugbyguy - 07 Jan 2005 04:42 GMT
C230 sedan I had did have a whining rrrrowwww-rrrrowwwww-rrrowwww sound
between 20 and 30 mph.

It turned out to be a failed or dry wheel bearing in the passenger side rear
wheel.  Replaced at the dealer in about an hour, and completely silenced the
problem.

Sounded like excessive tire noise, bad rear sound insulation or a
differential whine -- turned out it was a wheel bearing, and the sound was
resonating through the entire rear axle and trunk area, making it difficult
to determine what exactly was causing the whine.

30K miles on the car when the noise started.

> Sent an email before but will try again..Have any of you owners had
> troubles at
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> larry
Boelkowj - 07 Jan 2005 16:36 GMT
Thanks Rugbyguy for the info. I didn't think the rear wheels had bearings but
now that i think about it I guess the car has a different transaxle set up..
Thanks again.

Larry
Rugbyguy - 07 Jan 2005 19:21 GMT
You're welcome.

I didn't actually see the work performed; they told me it was a bad wheel
bearing.  It sounded to be more of a speed-related droning under the entire
rear seat than distinctly from the wheel or tire, but whatever they
replaced, it worked.

I'm not sure whether it was a bearing at the wheel hub, or something
internal in the axle; it was done under warranty, so I didn't ask much about
it.  They did say it was a bad wheel bearing, though, whatever that means in
a 2000 C230K.

> Thanks Rugbyguy for the info. I didn't think the rear wheels had bearings
> but
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> Larry
Martin Joseph - 07 Jan 2005 21:21 GMT
> Thanks Rugbyguy for the info. I didn't think the rear wheels had bearings but
> now that i think about it I guess the car has a different transaxle set up..
> Thanks again.

Dude!  All wheels have bearings!

Marty
Boelkowj - 08 Jan 2005 16:11 GMT
Martin: I was thinking easily replaced tapered type wheel bearings that we all
know about. Does the C230 have those type or are they pressed in. I'd like to
do the bearing job myself if needed and if like the front wheel tapered type.

Larry
Martin Joseph - 08 Jan 2005 18:07 GMT
> Martin: I was thinking easily replaced tapered type wheel bearings that we all
> know about. Does the C230 have those type or are they pressed in. I'd like to
> do the bearing job myself if needed and if like the front wheel tapered type.
I have no idea.  I guess you mean needle bearings when you refer to the
tapered type?

Usually if it's a wheel bearing that is making the noise,  steering the
car from side to side while going down the road (carefully!!) will
change the pitch of the sound or make it go away altogether.

Also  with the wheels jacked up,  you can try to wiggle them with your
hands and see if you feel any extra play.

Marty
Boelkowj - 28 Jan 2005 15:20 GMT
Marty: My suspicions are that the pinion gear is "scuffed" due to low lub/leaky
seal at 20,000 miles. I am tempted to try a 90-100 weight lub rather than 80 to
see if it will quiet down a little. Thanks.

Larry
Martin Joseph - 28 Jan 2005 19:17 GMT
> Marty: My suspicions are that the pinion gear is "scuffed" due to low lub/leaky
> seal at 20,000 miles. I am tempted to try a 90-100 weight lub rather than 80 to
> see if it will quiet down a little. Thanks.

No problem,  somtimes these can be shimmed too if there is slack...

Marty

Or you could just get a louder radio.

Marty
Roffe Berg - 28 Jan 2005 22:43 GMT
> Marty: My suspicions are that the pinion gear is "scuffed" due to low  
> lub/leaky
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> Larry

My merc 220 -71 had the same symptoms and it was the pinion bearing so i  
changed the whole differential (bought a used one) it worked ok for  
several years, then i forgot the regular (two-three times a year) oilcheck  
and same sh.t again, then i put some molybdendisulfide powder in it and  
now ten years after it still is working but with a slight sound. So try it  
and maybe some heavy lube for outboard drive gears, works nice.

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