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12V source in W126?

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marlinspike - 03 Feb 2005 05:50 GMT
I'm looking for a 12V source in a pre-86 W126 (380SE to be specific) off of
which I can splice a power cord. The trick is this though, it need to be hot
on run only or hot on start and run only. In the post-86's there's a wire
that will work up in the dome light area. According to the wiring diagram,
the only wires for the domelight are always hot in the pre-86s though. I'm
thinking the interior temp sensor, which is up by the domelight is hot on
run and start only. Can anybody verify?
Thanks,
Richard
Frank Kemper - 03 Feb 2005 08:01 GMT
"marlinspike" <rishayegan@davidson.edu> haute in die Tasten:

> The trick is this though, it need to be hot
> on run only or hot on start and run only.

Pull out the radio. It should have one always-on-power source (for memory
serving) and one switched source.

Frank

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marlinspike - 03 Feb 2005 08:03 GMT
I should have been more specific. It needs to be up top, near the rear view
mirror. I want to hook up a radar detector, and I don't wnat a cable hanging
down.
Richard

> "marlinspike" <rishayegan@davidson.edu> haute in die Tasten:
>
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>
> Frank
Ziggy Switkowski - 03 Feb 2005 10:09 GMT
just run your own cable, under the trim and down the front pillar, under the
covers of course.

>I should have been more specific. It needs to be up top, near the rear view
> mirror. I want to hook up a radar detector, and I don't wnat a cable
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>
>> Frank
marlinspike - 03 Feb 2005 17:46 GMT
Run it to where? Also, I'm not all that sure how to get underneath the front
part of the headliner and then the A-pillar. Doesn't sound too easy. If I
could use the power wire for the interior temp sensor I would have no wires
running around, it would look clean, and it'd be easy, but does anybody know
if it can be done?
Richard

> just run your own cable, under the trim and down the front pillar, under the
> covers of course.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> >>
> >> Frank
Ziggy Switkowski - 03 Feb 2005 23:08 GMT
Run it off the accessory circuit, easily found behind the radio.

the front trim comes down by removing the sunvisors, and clips and the rear
view mirror and anything else attached to it. the A pillar if I remember
correctly has a tab with a screw in it at the top back under the side trim.
you will need to remove the handle to get the side cover out enough to undo
the screw.

> Run it to where? Also, I'm not all that sure how to get underneath the
> front
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>> >>
>> >> Frank
Richard Sexton - 04 Feb 2005 23:33 GMT
>I should have been more specific. It needs to be up top, near the rear view
>mirror. I want to hook up a radar detector, and I don't wnat a cable hanging
>down.

Sigh. Dome light. Do a real good clean job. Use lots of insulating tape.
when (if would be better) that wire contacts the body - zzzzzzzt - bye bye
Mr. fuse.

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marlinspike - 06 Feb 2005 00:39 GMT
Dome light is always hot.
Richard

> >I should have been more specific. It needs to be up top, near the rear view
> >mirror. I want to hook up a radar detector, and I don't wnat a cable hanging
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> when (if would be better) that wire contacts the body - zzzzzzzt - bye bye
> Mr. fuse.
Richard Sexton - 04 Feb 2005 23:30 GMT
>I'm looking for a 12V source in a pre-86 W126 (380SE to be specific) off of
>which I can splice a power cord. The trick is this though, it need to be hot
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Thanks,
>Richard

The seats, horns, roof, rear defroast and rear lighters are hot in run or
start. The glovebox, lights, front lighter are hot in accesory or run.

Look in your fuse box to see which fuse does your (varies by model year)
and run yor wire from there.

I wouldn't splice a wire inside the cabin, ever. Half the electrical
bugs I fixed on my car were because of this. Stuff that Mercedes wired
does last 300K miles. Other wiring mods made, shall we say, after
it left the factory did not fare so well and after much fuse blowing
and replacing wires are ok now, but run your own wire, please.

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marlinspike - 06 Feb 2005 00:40 GMT
> The seats, horns, roof, rear defroast and rear lighters are hot in run or
> start. The glovebox, lights, front lighter are hot in accesory or run.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> it left the factory did not fare so well and after much fuse blowing
> and replacing wires are ok now, but run your own wire, please.

I had decided to go with the dome light and just live with using the
detector's on/off switch since I didn't feel like running a wire from the
glovebox light, but what you say worries me. Do you really think the
addtional 225 to 425 mA will blow the fuse?
Richard
William P.N. Smith - 06 Feb 2005 02:40 GMT
>"Richard Sexton" <richard@vrx.news> wrote in message
>> I wouldn't splice a wire inside the cabin, ever.

>glovebox light, but what you say worries me. Do you really think the
>addtional 225 to 425 mA will blow the fuse?

I doubt that the extra current would blow the fuse, it's the
workmanship of the 'aftermarket' splices that causes all the problems.
Richard Sexton - 07 Feb 2005 00:04 GMT
>I had decided to go with the dome light and just live with using the
>detector's on/off switch since I didn't feel like running a wire from the
>glovebox light, but what you say worries me. Do you really think the
>addtional 225 to 425 mA will blow the fuse?
>Richard

No, the 225 to 425 mA isn't going to hurt anything, it's the eventual
shorting of a wire onto the body that'll blow a fuse. Do a real clean
neat job in there.

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marlinspike - 07 Feb 2005 02:51 GMT
> No, the 225 to 425 mA isn't going to hurt anything, it's the eventual
> shorting of a wire onto the body that'll blow a fuse. Do a real clean
> neat job in there.

Oh, of course. I believe there's an official dedicated ground at the back of
that cavity too, so it'll be done right.
Richard
marlinspike - 08 Feb 2005 00:06 GMT
BTW, you're working with Rusty? Those lemforder oil pans you have for an 85
380SE...aluminum or steel?
Thanks,
Richard

> >I had decided to go with the dome light and just live with using the
> >detector's on/off switch since I didn't feel like running a wire from the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> shorting of a wire onto the body that'll blow a fuse. Do a real clean
> neat job in there.
Richard Sexton - 08 Feb 2005 20:02 GMT
>BTW, you're working with Rusty? Those lemforder oil pans you have for an 85
>380SE...aluminum or steel?

"working with" is not quite accurate. He sponsors the website a bit.

You'd have to call and ask abtout he oil panns, or email.

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marlinspike - 09 Feb 2005 06:35 GMT
Oh I see, you're with mbz.org. I thought from your sig that you were
actually working for him.
Richard
> >BTW, you're working with Rusty? Those lemforder oil pans you have for an 85
> >380SE...aluminum or steel?
>
> "working with" is not quite accurate. He sponsors the website a bit.
>
> You'd have to call and ask abtout he oil panns, or email.
 
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