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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / February 2005

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Rear End Wiggle on Acceleration

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9kman - 03 Feb 2005 11:47 GMT
I have a 1987 300E (not 4matic).  When accelerating, the car pushes to
the left.  When I let off the gas, it pulls back to the right.  The pull
back to the right can be quite sudden and a little unnerving in bad
weather.  The more power being applied, the more noticeable this is.  It
feels like one of the rear wheels is moving under thrust.  If I had to
guess, I would say it feels like the right rear wheel is being pushed
backward.

I have had the car on a lift and checked the bushings in all those arms
that hold the rear wheels in place.  There didn't seem to be much
movement to me.  I have also had a 4 wheel alignment and the print out
shows the toe is very good on all 4 wheels.  None of the brake calipers
seems to be binding.

I think that one or more of those arms in the rear need to be replaced.  
Is there any way to figure out which one(s) are worn out?  Could
something else be causing this problem?

Thanks,

Robert
T.G. Lambach - 04 Feb 2005 18:45 GMT
A. Possible bent rear control arm - that changes its rear wheel's toe in
as the rear "squats" during acceleration - would cause the slewing
problem. Deceleration reverses the process PLUS you are already steering
against the abnormality so the directional change is magnified.

This will be tough to diagnose because the toe in changes - deliberately
by design - as the car's body height changes vs. the axle.

B. Older car may have been wrecked during its 18 years of travels. Body
may be distorted causing the same effect as in A.

C. Look for abnormal rear tire wear - loss of tread depth on one side of
the tire. That's the side of the car with the problem.
Martin Joseph - 05 Feb 2005 20:38 GMT
> A. Possible bent rear control arm - that changes its rear wheel's toe
> in as the rear "squats" during acceleration - would cause the slewing
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> C. Look for abnormal rear tire wear - loss of tread depth on one side
> of the tire. That's the side of the car with the problem.

TG's comments are right on as usual.

Also it brings to mind something else...

how much do you weigh if you don't mind my asking?

Marty
9kman - 06 Feb 2005 03:23 GMT
I am average height and weight.  The car does not appear to have been
wrecked.  The underside is amazingly pristine.  The rear springs do have
considerable sag.  I have replacements on hand waiting to be installed.
Could weak springs cause this?

How would I diagnose a bent control arm?

Thanks,

Robert

>> A. Possible bent rear control arm - that changes its rear wheel's toe
>> in as the rear "squats" during acceleration - would cause the slewing
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Marty
T.G. Lambach - 06 Feb 2005 03:55 GMT
The rear suspension's toe in is not adjustable via a cam bolt etc. but
is adjusted by having the correct chassis height vs. the axle. The
springs fit into hard rubber pads or cups whose thickness is made to
achieve the car's correct riding height. You need to read about this in
the car's repair manual or CD-ROM, particularly since you will be
installing replacement springs. The springs are coded as to their length
and the respective rubber pad or cup that supports the spring ought to
be the correct one or the spring replacement job will be for naught.

If you lack this information perhaps you ought to visit the parts man at
the local dealer who may be able to help you match the springs you have
to install to the correct rubber pad or cup.

Lacking the toe in vs chassis height parameters of a perfect control arm
I don't know how to diagnose a bent control arm. Install the replacement
springs to achieve the correct height and see if that fixes it, if not,
then deal with the control arms.
 
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