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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / February 2005

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What Type of Mercedes is this?  Never seen one....

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iNet - 18 Feb 2005 01:40 GMT
I have the opportunity to buy this MB, and am considering doing so only
because I cannot identify it.

Exceptionally similar in body design to similar year VW busses.

Any ideas at all?

http://www.inet-lender.com/mercedes
Theo - 18 Feb 2005 03:47 GMT
>I have the opportunity to buy this MB, and am considering doing so only
>because I cannot identify it.
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>
> http://www.inet-lender.com/mercedes

looks like an old Hanomag to me

Greetings from the Netherlands

Theo
Juergen . - 18 Feb 2005 04:28 GMT
> I have the opportunity to buy this MB, and am considering doing so only
> because I cannot identify it.
> Exceptionally similar in body design to similar year VW busses.
> Any ideas at all?
> http://www.inet-lender.com/mercedes

That is a Tempo Matador E (1963-1967) - an early
predecessor of the Mercedes (Dodge/Freightliner) Sprinter.

It was built in Hamburg, Germany from 1963 to 1965
as Tempo Matador E, since 1966 Hanomag had the say
so the name changed to Hanomag Matador E.
In 1967 the much-renewed Matador was labelled
Hanomag-Henschel F20 to F35, depending on the
weight-class.

In 1969 Mercedes bought 51 percent of Hanomag-Henschel
and the cars were labelled as Mercedes, first as F20
to F35, later 207/307/206D/307D as then an option was
the 200D diesel engine from /8

Some photos and much German text at
<http://www.tempo-dienst.de/neu/Geschichte/history/scheinwerfer2-75.htm>

Juergen
Frank Kemper - 18 Feb 2005 07:35 GMT
Juergen . schrieb:

> That is a Tempo Matador E (1963-1967) - an early
> predecessor of the Mercedes (Dodge/Freightliner) Sprinter.

But it seems to me that this particular car was never delivered from
factory with a star. I suppose the star was installed later by one of
the owners of the car. If I were the original poster, I would not buy
this car, because the condition is too bad to rebuild and many parts are
missing (almost half of the engine)

Frank
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Juergen . - 18 Feb 2005 12:14 GMT
> Juergen . schrieb:
> > That is a Tempo Matador E (1963-1967) - an early
> > predecessor of the Mercedes (Dodge/Freightliner) Sprinter.
> But it seems to me that this particular car was never delivered from
> factory with a star. I suppose the star was installed later by one of

Exactly, the Matador E was only delivered as
Tempo Matador E and Hanomag Matador E.

The successor of the Matador E was later delivered
with the star on the front, too.

> the owners of the car. If I were the original poster, I would not buy
> this car, because the condition is too bad to rebuild and many parts are
> missing (almost half of the engine)

The engone is no problem at all, it is a wide-spread
(in the UK) Austin gasoline engine (54 PS, 1600 ccm,
from Austin 50 IIRC), that should really be no problem.

But the rust IS a problem, every rotten part has to be rebuild
by hand, that is time-consuming and I think the missing bumpers
could be a problem, too.

Juergen
iNet - 18 Feb 2005 13:36 GMT
From even before posting here, I thought that the star on front did not look
right..

Fantastic help, people, thank you.  I already backed out of the transaction.

>> Juergen . schrieb:
>> > That is a Tempo Matador E (1963-1967) - an early
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>
> Juergen
greek_philosophizer - 19 Feb 2005 22:08 GMT
> From even before posting here, I thought that the star on front did not look
> right..

> Fantastic help, people, thank you.  I already backed out of the transaction.

    Backing out  may have been a mistake.

    Do you have dogs?

    It would make an excellent doghouse.

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> From even before posting here, I thought that the star on front did not
> look right..
>
> Fantastic help, people, thank you.  I already backed out of the
> transaction.
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Peter - 18 Feb 2005 20:51 GMT
It is a VW bus! P.

>I have the opportunity to buy this MB, and am considering doing so only
>because I cannot identify it.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://www.inet-lender.com/mercedes
iNet - 19 Feb 2005 21:06 GMT
> It is a VW bus! P.

No, Its not, but the body design sure is similar
Frank Kemper - 19 Feb 2005 21:59 GMT
"iNet" <thecowsays@moo.com> haute in die Tasten:

> No, Its not, but the body design sure is similar

VW Busses had a rear mounted engine until the early 90's

Frank

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