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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / February 2005

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Diesel Warm Up- Idle or Drive?

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Paul Valois - 18 Feb 2005 10:00 GMT
Most car manufacturers recommend warming up with a light load by easy
driving instead of idling.  Is this true for the diesel engine in a 300SD?

The engine seems to run cold and takes quite a while to warm up.  Is
this a typical characteristic of diesels?
Henry Kolesnik - 18 Feb 2005 14:04 GMT
As soon as the oil pressure is up get going.  These diesels will not warm up
idling and must be driven, idling a cold enigne will carbon it up.

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> Most car manufacturers recommend warming up with a light load by easy
> driving instead of idling.  Is this true for the diesel engine in a 300SD?
>
> The engine seems to run cold and takes quite a while to warm up.  Is this
> a typical characteristic of diesels?
trader4@optonline.net - 18 Feb 2005 14:06 GMT
My 80 300SD warms up about as fast as any other car I've owned.  In
fact, I'd say I get cabin heat faster in this car than in most others.
I've always driven it after starting up, without waiting, unless it's
very cold, like under 20.  Then I keep it idling a little faster than
normal, just at the point where it runs smoother for a minute or so
before driving off.  Then I take it easy for the first 5 mins or so,
while it warms up.

If yours takes a long time to get to normal temp, I'd change the
thermostat.
T.G. Lambach - 18 Feb 2005 20:06 GMT
Start it and drive off.

My diesel takes longer to reach 80 degrees C. than my gas car but that's
the nature of a diesel's thermal efficiency vs. gas engines, IMHO.

Thomas Lambach
'80 300SD, owned since new
pool man - 18 Feb 2005 20:19 GMT
theres a whole lot of cast iron to warm up but i get OK heat after 2
miles and 80C at around 4 miles.

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tweaks - 18 Feb 2005 23:02 GMT
I wait about 30-45 seconds on my 81 300td.  The oil is always pegged, and
the engine has a good, solid sound.  I agree that it's a Looonnnngggg time
to get the thing warmed up while idling, even on a warm day.  However, I do
try not to jump out of my parking lot and do 60 at full acceleration while
cold.
Dori A Schmetterling - 20 Feb 2005 16:39 GMT
The general advice is as already stated, to drive off immediately (or within
a very short space of time) but gently until operating temp is reached.
From previous discussions on this topic here it seems that the 'real'
operating temperature is reached about 5 min after it says so on the
dashboard instrument.

DAS
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>I wait about 30-45 seconds on my 81 300td.  The oil is always pegged, and
> the engine has a good, solid sound.  I agree that it's a Looonnnngggg time
> to get the thing warmed up while idling, even on a warm day.  However, I
> do
> try not to jump out of my parking lot and do 60 at full acceleration while
> cold.
Richard Sexton - 20 Feb 2005 19:35 GMT
>The general advice is as already stated, to drive off immediately (or within
>a very short space of time) but gently until operating temp is reached.
>From previous discussions on this topic here it seems that the 'real'
>operating temperature is reached about 5 min after it says so on the
>dashboard instrument.

Correct, this is what MB says. Idling to warm it up just clogs the
prechambers with carbon.

MB says to never idle the engine for more than 5 mninutes at any time.

The engine is fully warmed up when the oil is at temperature,
not the coolant. This is why Ferarris have oil temperature gauges.

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Dori A Schmetterling - 20 Feb 2005 21:14 GMT
Not to mention only warming up part of the engine/transmission system giving
rise to different metal expansion etc.

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