I wait about 30-45 seconds on my 81 300td. The oil is always pegged, and
the engine has a good, solid sound. I agree that it's a Looonnnngggg time
to get the thing warmed up while idling, even on a warm day. However, I do
try not to jump out of my parking lot and do 60 at full acceleration while
cold.
The general advice is as already stated, to drive off immediately (or within
a very short space of time) but gently until operating temp is reached.
From previous discussions on this topic here it seems that the 'real'
operating temperature is reached about 5 min after it says so on the
dashboard instrument.
DAS

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>I wait about 30-45 seconds on my 81 300td. The oil is always pegged, and
> the engine has a good, solid sound. I agree that it's a Looonnnngggg time
> to get the thing warmed up while idling, even on a warm day. However, I
> do
> try not to jump out of my parking lot and do 60 at full acceleration while
> cold.
Richard Sexton - 20 Feb 2005 19:35 GMT
>The general advice is as already stated, to drive off immediately (or within
>a very short space of time) but gently until operating temp is reached.
>From previous discussions on this topic here it seems that the 'real'
>operating temperature is reached about 5 min after it says so on the
>dashboard instrument.
Correct, this is what MB says. Idling to warm it up just clogs the
prechambers with carbon.
MB says to never idle the engine for more than 5 mninutes at any time.
The engine is fully warmed up when the oil is at temperature,
not the coolant. This is why Ferarris have oil temperature gauges.

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Dori A Schmetterling - 20 Feb 2005 21:14 GMT
Not to mention only warming up part of the engine/transmission system giving
rise to different metal expansion etc.
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> Correct, this is what MB says. Idling to warm it up just clogs the
> prechambers with carbon.
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