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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / March 2005Sprinter question.
Currently the Sprinter is being sold in the US and Canada under the Dodge and the Freightliner name plate. They are equipped with the 2.7l 5 cyl. turbo diesel. It is my understanding that they have been sold in Europe for some time now. What kind of reliability reputation do these vans have?  SignatureRoger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. > Currently the Sprinter is being sold in the US and Canada under the Dodge > and the Freightliner name plate. They are equipped with the 2.7l 5 cyl. > turbo diesel. > It is my understanding that they have been sold in Europe for some time > now. What kind of reliability reputation do these vans have? I hear it is good but I have never had one. If you want one that isn't white with strange options you have to order it and that takes months since they build them in Europe and ship them here for final assembly. They need to build them in the USA. . 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FOUR MORE YEARS to a 10 trillion dollar national debt! ( $10,000,000,000,000.00 )! FOUR MORE YEARS until 20% of the federal budget is interest payments on the debt! . > It is my understanding that they have been sold in Europe for some time >now. What kind of reliability reputation do these vans have? A friend of mine in Australia has one. He loves it to death. As for reliablity think "tank". He's had his airborne in the desert. "no worries". Rare and expensive. I looked for one at xmas. I found one used one in all of Canada. Apparanly people don't want to sell them for some reason... SignatureNeed Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org http://www.mbz.org | Mercedes Mailing lists: http://lists.mbz.org 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | Killies, killi.net, Crypts, aquaria.net 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Old wristwatches http://watches.list.mbz.org > He's had his airborne in the desert. "no worries". You can get them with wings? . > > It is my understanding that they have been sold in Europe for some time > >now. What kind of reliability reputation do these vans have? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Rare and expensive. I looked for one at xmas. I found one used one in > all of Canada. Apparanly people don't want to sell them for some reason... Ditto. I've spoken to a couple of acquaintances in the states who have them and they're getting 25+ mpg (better mileage than a Chevy Astro!). I've only seen a few of them on the roads in Nova Scotia. Tim Delaney 1984 300SD > > Rare and expensive. I looked for one at xmas. I found one used one in > > all of Canada. Apparanly people don't want to sell them for some > > reason... > I've only seen a few of them on the roads in Nova Scotia. They are *ALL OVER* the place here in the GTA. >> > Rare and expensive. I looked for one at xmas. I found one used one in >> > all of Canada. Apparanly people don't want to sell them for some [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > They are *ALL OVER* the place here in the GTA. I've seen several in Calgary, as well. FWIW, I've also seen a few fully licensed Smart cars on the roads here, too. (Though not near enough to get them into profit). John M. '94 E320 Bigger than a Smart, smaller than a Sprinter >FWIW, I've also seen a few fully licensed Smart cars on the roads here, too. >(Though not near enough to get them into profit). I'm startng to see a few too. SignatureNeed Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org http://www.mbz.org | Mercedes Mailing lists: http://lists.mbz.org 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | Killies, killi.net, Crypts, aquaria.net 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Old wristwatches http://watches.list.mbz.org > > They are *ALL OVER* the place here in the GTA. > > I've seen several in Calgary, as well. > > FWIW, I've also seen a few fully licensed Smart cars on the roads here, too. > (Though not near enough to get them into profit). Smarts seem to be catching on in Tronna, though I am not yet convinced that they're not paying people to drive a small fleet of Smarts in the AvDav neighbourhood where all the clever people live. >> > They are *ALL OVER* the place here in the GTA. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >that they're not paying people to drive a small fleet of Smarts in the >AvDav neighbourhood where all the clever people live. Yes, that would be the smart thing to do. SignatureNeed Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org http://www.mbz.org | Mercedes Mailing lists: http://lists.mbz.org 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | Killies, killi.net, Crypts, aquaria.net 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Old wristwatches http://watches.list.mbz.org > Currently the Sprinter is being sold in the US and Canada under the Dodge > and the Freightliner name plate. They are equipped with the 2.7l 5 cyl. > turbo diesel. > It is my understanding that they have been sold in Europe for some time > now. What kind of reliability reputation do these vans have? Here in Germany we say _Sprinter-Class_ for all those vans, be it MB Sprinter, VW LT or Renault Master etc. pp. Juergen > Here in Germany we say _Sprinter-Class_ for all those > vans, be it MB Sprinter, VW LT or Renault Master etc. pp. > > Juergen OK, so do I infer from this that a Sprinter is better, eq1ual or worse than the VW or Renault? Do these have a reputation like the 300 D going a half a million miles on a regular basis or are they run of the mill? SignatureRoger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. > "Juergen ." <jaguare@bigfoot.com> wrote in message > > Here in Germany we say _Sprinter-Class_ for all those > > vans, be it MB Sprinter, VW LT or Renault Master etc. pp. > OK, so do I infer from this that a Sprinter is better, eq1ual or worse than > the VW or Renault? Do these have a reputation like the 300 D going a half a The VW is the same - ok, different engines and slightly different front look - as the Sprinter, the bodies in white are identical. With the successor it will be the same next year. > million miles on a regular basis or are they run of the mill? Mileage depends on several things, but the engine is known to last long; it is basically the same engine as in the 270CDI passenger vans (you don't get them in NA) and if serviced regularly, not chip-tuned and carefully driven until warm I see no problem to reach very high mileage. The Renault Master is the same as the Opel Movano resp. Vauxhall Movano and Nissan Interstar, the Fiat Ducato is the same as a Citroen Jumper resp. Citroen Relay and Peugeot Boxer, the Ford Transit has no such _twin_, but the Transit leaves the coice of fron or rear drive. Juergen > "Juergen ." <jaguare@bigfoot.com> wrote in message > > Here in Germany we say _Sprinter-Class_ for all those > > vans, be it MB Sprinter, VW LT or Renault Master etc. pp. > OK, so do I infer from this that a Sprinter is better, eq1ual or worse than > the VW or Renault? Do these have a reputation like the 300 D going a half a The VW is the same - ok, different engines and slightly different front look - as the Sprinter, the bodies in white are identical. With the successor it will be the same next year. > million miles on a regular basis or are they run of the mill? Mileage depends on several things, but the engine is known to last long; it is basically the same engine as in the 270CDI passenger vans (you don't get them in NA) and if serviced regularly, not chip-tuned and carefully driven until warm I see no problem to reach very high mileage. The Renault Master is the same as the Opel Movano resp. Vauxhall Movano and Nissan Interstar, the Fiat Ducato is the same as a Citroen Jumper resp. Citroen Relay and Peugeot Boxer, the Ford Transit has no such _twin_. Juergen > OK, so do I infer from this that a Sprinter is better, eq1ual or worse than > the VW or Renault? Do these have a reputation like the 300 D going a half a > million miles on a regular basis or are they run of the mill? My uncle has one with a couple hundred thousand kilometers on it for his produce selling business, no problems, loves it. The ones in North America have automatics, people here are too lazy I guess, should be a noticeable difference in fuel consumption. look for sprinter mileage examples at the top german car trader sites http://eng.autoscout24.com/ http://www.mobile.de/cgi-bin/index_cgi.pl?sprache=2 cp |
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