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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / March 2005

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A/C mystery

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John - 25 Mar 2005 03:25 GMT
1984 190D
I have a problem I have always associated with low freon; however, I just
had a freon charge (after two years it took $18.50 in oil & dye and $15.00
in freon R-134A, which doesn't seem like a fast leak), but the problem
persists.

When the car has been in the shade when I start up, the A/C cycles on and
off normally (usually), but when it has sat in the sun as today (it was 80
degrees here in Abilene today) it either won't come on at all, or it comes
on when I start up and when it cycles off, it won't cycle on again. Turning
the temperature wheel to max has no effect (it works beautifully for heat).

When it operates normally and I am at highway speed, it usually continues to
operate normally.

Any ideas?
pool man - 25 Mar 2005 03:56 GMT
your fan running?
mine does not run all the time but if the head pressure climbs a bit or
it hots around 100C it turns on.

also you may have junk in te system<dryer> or the pressure switch needs
changing.

my 82SD still funs on R12
god its great.

the case, minus a few cans!
marlinspike - 25 Mar 2005 04:43 GMT
Does it switch on and off, or does the cooling effect come and go?
Richard

> 1984 190D
> I have a problem I have always associated with low freon; however, I just
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> Any ideas?
pool man - 25 Mar 2005 04:55 GMT
low freon pressure will cause short cycling

the case, minus a few cans!
Peter W Peternouschek - 25 Mar 2005 05:09 GMT
I would bet that the shop overcharged it. The compressor will shut down if
the pressure gets too high.
The only way to charge the AC system correctly is to completely evacuate it
and put in the recommended amount.
This would also get rid of any moisture in the system which could cause any
number of problems.
I had similar issues with another car where I added freon and wound up
overcharging it. It would work fine when it was cooler. When it got hot the
compressor would shut down. I dawned on me what was going on when I put
gauges on the system. I picked a hot day and let out a little bit of freon
at a time untill the compressor started to cycle normally.
Godd luck

Peter

> 1984 190D
> I have a problem I have always associated with low freon; however, I just
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> Any ideas?
Stratman - 25 Mar 2005 12:23 GMT
My C180 had the opposite problem: the A/C would only work when the car was
really hot inside, like when it had been standing in the sun for a while.

It turned out to be (as others have suggested) a faulty pressure switch.
This switch (on the C-Class it lives on top of the receiver/drier) protects
against both too high and too low pressure in the system.

It could be that your 'too low' part of the switch is giving a false message
to the rest of the system.
Martin Joseph - 26 Mar 2005 21:05 GMT
> 1984 190D
> I have a problem I have always associated with low freon; however, I
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> Any ideas?

Could also be a slipping serpentine belt....
Ernie Sparks - 30 Mar 2005 06:12 GMT
If you're still on R-12 your low side pressire should be 30-32 psi. I
understand R134a is more likely in the 28 psi range.
If your system hasn't been opened I see no reason to evacuate it for a total
recharge. If there are no leaks the system should operate indefinitely with
no moisture build up. However, if your system has been opened and lines
exposed to ambient for more than a couple of hours I would evacuate the
system, pull it down as close as possible to 30 inches of mercury and then
recharge. Don't forget an oil charge.

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