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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / April 2005

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shift weirdness

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Ron Tellus - 07 Apr 2005 18:20 GMT
Had some shifting difficulties with an '83 300D.  Replaced the
plastic shift arms.  Now, shifting is erratic - sometimes perfect -
sometimes rough.  If I keep it floored, it's much, much smoother than if
if I go easy.  

If I take it easy, shift points vary with the throttle position.  In this
case. the tranny usually will only stay in second gear for a few seconds
before shifting into 3rd -- much too early.  I realize this description
isn' much to go on.

Any thoughts??
T.G. Lambach - 08 Apr 2005 00:00 GMT
I believe there are two issues to be investigated.

The transmission's shifts are coordinated with the throttle position.
The older models have a "pressure" rod or cable from the (top rear of
the engine) throttle linkage down to the right side of the transmission.
At some point after '82, I believe, this was changed to a vacuum system.
Your car is up shifting prematurely because its transmission isn't
getting the correct throttle position message.

The transmission's shifts are modulated by a vacuum powered modulator
whose vacuum supply is controlled by a throttle linked vacuum valve on
the injection pump. The principle is: the greater the vacuum the softer
the shift, conversely at full throttle there's no vacuum to the
modulator because M-B wants a fast, hard shift.
Ron Tellus - 07 Apr 2005 21:02 GMT
> I believe there are two issues to be investigated.
>
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> the shift, conversely at full throttle there's no vacuum to the
> modulator because M-B wants a fast, hard shift.

Excellent.  Any ideas where I can buy or find a step by step
troubleshooting guide for this subsystem?
Ernie Sparks - 08 Apr 2005 04:00 GMT
Thanks for the good info. I've had the same problem on my wife's 300D. When
I drive it is simply hold the tranny in the gear I want until I reach the
shift rpm that feels good.
 
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