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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / April 2005

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Injector Pump Lube Oil

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Randall Brink - 13 Apr 2005 20:06 GMT
Lacking a proper shop manual for my W115 240D, I do not know how to service
the Injector pump. What type and how much "Oel" is needed, and how do you
check the proper level?

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1970 VW Type 1
1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D

T.G. Lambach - 13 Apr 2005 21:06 GMT
IP lubrication is supplied by engine, no lube oil is needed unless the
pump is removed.
Randall Brink - 13 Apr 2005 23:04 GMT
So the oil port/cap on the pump is for adding oil if and when the pump is
removed?

Also, there is no oil visible inside the pump, and that made me wonder.

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1970 VW Type 1
1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D

> IP lubrication is supplied by engine, no lube oil is needed unless the
> pump is removed.
T.G. Lambach - 14 Apr 2005 00:19 GMT
Plug is to fill a replacement pump.

Small diameter lube oil line goes to pump.
Randall Brink - 14 Apr 2005 15:54 GMT
Thank you very much--one less thing to worry about.

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1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D

> Plug is to fill a replacement pump.
>
> Small diameter lube oil line goes to pump.
Ron Wong - 14 Apr 2005 12:56 GMT
> Lacking a proper shop manual for my W115 240D, I do not know how to service
> the Injector pump. What type and how much "Oel" is needed, and how do you
> check the proper level?

Lambach's post:

> IP lubrication is supplied by engine, no lube oil is needed unless the
> pump is removed.

Doesn't  apply to Randall's car.

There were 3 types of injector pumps for the diesels in those years.

1. M - with pneumatic governor

2. M/RSF and MW - both with a mechanical governor.

The M-injection pump had a separate oil lubrication system that was
supposed to be serviced at regular intervals.

The other two drew their oil from the engine block.

One way to tell the difference between the M-type and the other two was
that, when you viewed the back of the M-type pump, the bottom of the back
of the pump that faced the firewall was round. The sides of the back end
of the other two types of pumps were straight and parallel with the
corners beveled or rounded off at the  bottom.

For the '75 diesels here are the numbers:

For engine numbers 615.912/913/916 the pump was M-type => 240D's up to 1977

For engine number 617.910 it was MW-type => the '75 300D

Your's is probably an M-type. It has it's own oil and uses the same type
of oil as your engine (although my mechanic put in synthetic oil when he
rebuilt the injector pump).

As you face the injection pump from the driver's side of the car, the
you'll see a check plug on the side of the injection pump housing a little
less than an inch to the right of the manual delivery pump. Unscrew it and
notice what happens when you do. If nothing comes out, the pump's low on
oil. Add oil until it comes up to the check bore.

It's not unusual for fuel to end up in the pump. So more typically,
instead of nothing coming out, you'll notice a fuel/oil mixture coming out
when you unscrew the plug.

There is no drain plug for the pump so I aspirated the oil out of it
whenever it came to changing it's oil (If I recall correctly, the
recommended way was to back off the bolts on the back plate and let the
oil run out. Far too messy and potentially problematical for me).

As far as amount is concerned, I just added oil until it came up to the
check bore. It's less than a quart - probably a lot less.

Sorry I can't be more exact but I think you have enough to work with.

Have fun.

ron

P.S. Randall also later said:

> Also, there is no oil visible inside the pump, and that made me wonder.

There is no way you can actually see the oil by looking "inside the pump".
It sits at the bottom of the pump and there is a lot of things between the
two of you. Take a thin piece of stiff wire with white insulation and slip
it down the oil port and you'll find it down there - if it's there.
T.G. Lambach - 14 Apr 2005 17:37 GMT
Now we know why the later IPs are lubed from the engine.
Ron Wong - 15 Apr 2005 00:05 GMT
> Now we know why the later IPs are lubed from the engine.

Amen!

One less pain in the butt.

The only nice thing about the M-type that I know of was that the oil in
the pump never mixed with the contaminated oil of the engine  block. It
was "always" clean (relatively speaking). The only contaminate was fresh
fuel which, in the case of diesel fuel, is also a lubricant. When you
drained the pump, the oil/fuel mixture looked as good as new. It just
smelled of diesel fuel.

ron
 
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