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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / May 2005

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Temporary smoking exhaust (300E)

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Andy Smith - 05 May 2005 11:40 GMT
Hi all - I have a 1990 300E (24 valve) 100k - it has been fine with up to
date servicing etc. The other day I was on the motorway - doing about 80mph
(had already travelled some 40 miles) - looked in the rear view mirror and I
saw faint whiffs of smoke apparently coming from the exhaust.
I pulled over and opened the bonnet and there was some smoke coming from
behind the rather large lumpy thing in the middle (think it's called an
engine). After a minute or so, it stopped - I went around the back of the
car and looked at the exhaust - it did look a little bit oily and there was
a thin film of oil over the back of the car. I also checked the oil level -
it appeared to be fine
I conferred with my passenger (also not a car expert) and we decided to
carry on - keeping the speed down - keeping an eye out for any more smoke (I
should say that the oil pressure gauge goes to 3 and stays there when
driving - so no problems there!).
I drove for another 150 miles that day with no sign of smoke - gradually
speeding up to normal motorway speeds. I have driven it to work for the last
few days (20 miles each way) with no problems either.

My question is - does anyone know what might have caused this temporary
smoking and should I panic and call my (non-specialist) mechanic?

many thanks
Andy
Tiger - 05 May 2005 17:48 GMT
Mmm... possible valve seals are going bad.
Martin Joseph - 05 May 2005 17:48 GMT
> My question is - does anyone know what might have caused this temporary
> smoking and should I panic and call my (non-specialist) mechanic?

Sounds like a small oil leak. Check the valve cover gasket/s first... a
tiny leak might show at high speeds as pressure is greatest then.  A
really small amount of oil can produce a lot of smoke...

Marty
pool man - 05 May 2005 17:56 GMT
if you added any you may have spilled a bit and its dripping down till
it hits the exhaust pipe

the case, minus a few cans!
T.G. Lambach - 05 May 2005 18:31 GMT
It could be that there's an oil leak that allows oil to drip onto the
hot exhaust where it smolders when you drive, particularly at higher
speeds. The leak is an ooze, not a gush, so the oil level and pressure
continue to be normal. The oil film on the car's rear is from droplets
being blown there; look under the car and you'll probably see a growing
oily area from the engine rearward.

This leak is simple to find - and should be found, so you can drive in
confidence that the engine not run out of oil.
Andy Smith - 06 May 2005 09:02 GMT
thanks Chaps! I'll get the mechanic to check it out
Cheers
Andy
Bob - 08 May 2005 14:47 GMT
I had a similar experience once (not a Mercedes) and found that the power
steering hose had a leak. The hose was squirting hydraulic fluid on to the
exhaust manifold.

Bob
Pittsburgh, PA

> Hi all - I have a 1990 300E (24 valve) 100k - it has been fine with up to
> date servicing etc. The other day I was on the motorway - doing about
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> many thanks
> Andy
Ernie Sparks - 24 May 2005 21:04 GMT
> Hi all - I have a 1990 300E (24 valve) 100k - it has been fine with up to
> date servicing etc. The other day I was on the motorway - doing about 80mph
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> many thanks
> Andy

If you had a thin film of oil inside the tail pipe and oil was present on
the rear of your car my guess is the oil is coming out the exhaust pipe, not
something that is dripping on the engine or exhaust system.

Don't know if you have an automatic trans or not with a modulator valve. If
you do this could be a source of oil getting into the engine via the vacuum
line usually associated with these valves. I know my '81 300D with auto
trans has such a valve. The oil at the exhaust and on the rear of your car
would, in this case, be automatic transmission oil and not engine oil. I
know for a fact this used to be a real problem with American built cars.

So.....the first thing I would check is the level of trans oil. Check it
with the engine hot, preferably with at least a 15-minute drive. If the
engine oil is up to snuff and the tranny oil is low you've at least isolated
the problem.

Since you say the smoking went away once you stopped and checked things over
my guess, if the tranny oil is low, the modulator valve may have open up a
leak for a period of time while driving and then revert to a normal function
once engine speed changed, the transmission shifted through a series of
gears, etc. On American cars with similar problems replacing the modulator
valve almost always solves the problem. This is usually a simple, one-wrench
operation and easily done by anyone with any sense. Just see if you have a
vacuum line going from the engine compartment to the rear area of the
transmission and, if so, it should end at the valve.

Good luck and let us know the results.
 
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