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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / May 2005

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Orc General - 15 May 2005 06:02 GMT
Is Mercedes Benz high on the list of thief magnets? like them Camrys and
Accords?
Tiger - 16 May 2005 04:36 GMT
Not likely... too much headaches... especially with satellite theft recovery
capability on most late model Mercedes.
William P. N. Smith - 16 May 2005 11:38 GMT
>Is Mercedes Benz high on the list of thief magnets?

The recent ones with the electronic key are "known to be" impossible
to hot-wire or drive away without the key.  I've heard of insurance
companies refusing to pay for theft, though that may be apochryphal.
Either way, lots of trouble, and as Tiger mentioned, easy for the
owners and/or police to find with GPS and cellphone integration.
cp - 17 May 2005 02:48 GMT
> Either way, lots of trouble, and as Tiger mentioned, easy for the
> owners and/or police to find with GPS and cellphone integration.

Did my 1966 200S come with those options?

TIA
cp
William P. N. Smith - 17 May 2005 03:37 GMT
>Did my 1966 200S come with those options?

If you've got the bubble antenna on the back of the roof (GPS wart
with cellphone antenna), then yes.  Otherwise it's a dealer upgrade.
cp - 17 May 2005 06:10 GMT
> If you've got the bubble antenna on the back of the roof (GPS wart
> with cellphone antenna), then yes.  Otherwise it's a dealer upgrade.

Well, darn it, looks like the original owner was too cheap to get that option.
cp
Rodney T. Grill - 17 May 2005 20:00 GMT
>> If you've got the bubble antenna on the back of the roof (GPS wart
>> with cellphone antenna), then yes.  Otherwise it's a dealer upgrade.
>
> Well, darn it, looks like the original owner was too cheap to get
> that option. cp

Just because you have the antenna does not mean the vehicle can be tracked.
You must have the TeleAid equipment installed and you must be subscribed to
this optional service.  They can't track the vehicle unless it's actively
subscribed, and you must have the vehicle in your possession to activate it.
The service is free for the first year on new vehicles, then it costs about
$240 per year after that.  I believe it became available beginning in model
year 2000 and was standard on most all US models except the C-Class, where
it was an option.

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Kenneth P. Stox - 18 May 2005 04:00 GMT
>>> If you've got the bubble antenna on the back of the roof (GPS wart
>>> with cellphone antenna), then yes.  Otherwise it's a dealer upgrade.
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> became available beginning in model year 2000 and was standard on most
> all US models except the C-Class, where it was an option.

Read the OP:

"Did my 1966 200S come with those options?"

Tracking those retro subversives might be a good idea, though. ;->
cp - 18 May 2005 05:36 GMT
:-)

> Read the OP:
>
> "Did my 1966 200S come with those options?"
>
> Tracking those retro subversives might be a good idea, though. ;->
Hunt - 20 May 2005 05:23 GMT
>>>> If you've got the bubble antenna on the back of the roof (GPS wart
>>>> with cellphone antenna), then yes.  Otherwise it's a dealer upgrade.
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>
>Tracking those retro subversives might be a good idea, though. ;->

I think that the '66 came with two tin cans and a very long string <G>.

Hunt
Hunt - 20 May 2005 05:23 GMT
>>> If you've got the bubble antenna on the back of the roof (GPS wart
>>> with cellphone antenna), then yes.  Otherwise it's a dealer upgrade.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>year 2000 and was standard on most all US models except the C-Class, where
>it was an option.

Can't say when it was introduced, but US '00 E-320 had it. Now they offer a "
concierge" tele-aid upgrade, but other than traffic warnings, and restaurant
reservations, I can't think of anything else that THAT program offers.

Hunt
Rodney T. Grill - 17 May 2005 21:00 GMT
>> Is Mercedes Benz high on the list of thief magnets?
>
> The recent ones with the electronic key are "known to be" impossible
> to hot-wire or drive away without the key.

That's right.  The SmartKey system using DAS-3 has a rolling code handshake
that is virtually impossible to crack (unlike the recent news about the
easily cracked TI-supplied chips in Ford, Toyota and other makes).  The
exception to this would be older models that use the switchblade type keys.
While those system also use a rolling code key, there is a flaw that would
allow them to be cracked (and obviously I won't bother to post the flaw
here, but it was eventually corrected).

>  I've heard of insurance
> companies refusing to pay for theft, though that may be apochryphal.

Generally, Insurance companies won't pay for the theft if the owner somehow
contributed to it, as in leaving the vehicle unlocked with the key in it in
a public place.  However, if a thief did somehow circumvent the security,
either by ordering new keys or stealing the key from the owner, then
insurance will pay.

> Either way, lots of trouble, and as Tiger mentioned, easy for the
> owners and/or police to find with GPS and cellphone integration.

As I stated in another reply, this is only possible if the vehicle has an
actively subscribed Teleaid system.  If not, it cannot be "retroactively"
subscribed after theft.

As for the overall theft rate of MBZ vehicles, it is very low.  While they
are certainly sought after, they are among the hardest to steal.   Most that
are stolen are towed and then stripped and chopped.  Others are stolen by
creative thieves that obtain the keys, but either way, they are no taken by
your average street thug.

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Dori A Schmetterling - 21 May 2005 13:59 GMT
Depends on the country and model.  I don't think Camrys etc are stolen as
much in parts of Europe.

DAS

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> Is Mercedes Benz high on the list of thief magnets? like them Camrys and
> Accords?
 
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