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eBay & PayPal spoof warning

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T.G. Lambach - 26 May 2005 20:51 GMT
I've just received eBay and PayPal "spoofs;" apparently my name was
culled from this NG.

Both look quite authentic but are not; I know that because I don't have
an account at either place.

There's no bottom to some people.

Tom
Dori A Schmetterling - 26 May 2005 21:17 GMT
I have had same.  A version of phishing, is it not?  I have had such
messages from banks with whom I don't have accounts....(as well as some
banks from whom I DO have accounts).

All junk.

DAS

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> I've just received eBay and PayPal "spoofs;" apparently my name was culled
> from this NG.
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>
> Tom
Martin Joseph - 27 May 2005 06:37 GMT
> I have had same.  A version of phishing, is it not?  I have had such
> messages from banks with whom I don't have accounts....(as well as some
> banks from whom I DO have accounts).
>
> All junk.

Phishing is correct.

These are criminals looking to take over your ebay account or your
paypal account.  Either way, they are thieves.

I report this type of phishing to both the senders ISP, as well as to
Ebay and or paypal.

Pathetic really, as you know there must be a lot of people that fall for it...

NEVER USE A LINK IN AN EMAIL to go to either site.

The safest way is to open your browser and type in the correct URL (ie
paypal.com)

Marty
Dori A Schmetterling - 27 May 2005 11:12 GMT
Absolutely correct.

The spoof sites can be remarkably 'lifelike'.

For fun one can look at the sender by hitting Properties.

DAS

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> NEVER USE A LINK IN AN EMAIL to go to either site.
>
> The safest way is to open your browser and type in the correct URL (ie
> paypal.com)
>
> Marty
Rodney T. Grill - 02 Jun 2005 19:24 GMT
> NEVER USE A LINK IN AN EMAIL to go to either site.
>
> The safest way is to open your browser and type in the correct URL (ie
> paypal.com)

Actually, there could even be a problem with doing that!  When you enter a
URL in your browser's address bar, it has to resolve that web site name to
an IP address.  Normally, that involves looking it up on your ISP's DNS
server, but it actually looks first in the "hosts" file on your local PC.
Of course most people don't have anything in there, but a malicious web site
or e-mail sender can create a trojan horse that puts their resolution to
sites like eBay and PayPal there, so while you may think you are at the real
site, you have actually be redirected to the phishing site.  You can mark
this file as read-only, but even then it's not fail-safe.  I do believe most
modern security software (i.e. Norton Internet Security and the like) do
protect this file, but it;s probably not a bad idea to check it periodically
to make sure it has not been tampered with.

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- RODNEY

Martin Joseph - 02 Jun 2005 21:41 GMT
>> NEVER USE A LINK IN AN EMAIL to go to either site.
>>
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> file, but it;s probably not a bad idea to check it periodically to make
> sure it has not been tampered with.

I haven't seen that particular exploit,  but that would not be possible
on a secure system ( ie linux, unix or mac) as the malicous trojan
could not gain access to the hosts file...

I don't know about windows,  but there are other ways hackers can
poison your lookups also,  for example by corrupting DNS cache...

Good Luck,
Marty
Dori A Schmetterling - 03 Jun 2005 17:33 GMT
Where/how would I find this file?

Thx
DAS

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> it actually looks first in the "hosts" file on your local PC.
> Of course most people don't have anything in there, but a malicious web
> site or e-mail sender can create a trojan horse that puts their resolution
> to sites like eBay and PayPal there, so while you may think you are at the
> real site, you have actually be redirected to the phishing site.  You can
> mark this file as read-only, but even then it's not fail-safe.
[...]
> but it;s probably not a bad idea to check
> it periodically to make sure it has not been tampered with.
Rodney T. Grill - 03 Jun 2005 17:42 GMT
> Where/how would I find this file?

For Windows XP, it's usually in the \WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc folder.
You can do a local search on "hosts" to make sure.  There are actually two
files - "hosts" and "lmhosts" (if you find "lmhosts.sam", it's just an
inactive sample).  They both do the same thing, but lmhosts takes precedence
and has some advanced options for pre-loading the DNS cache and such.

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- RODNEY

greek_philosophizer - 03 Jun 2005 21:48 GMT
If you hate looking at tasteless
banner ads you can use this same
facility to avoid them!

You just equate their domain name to
127.0.0.1 or something else pointless
and you do not get the banner ad.

Here is the relevent part of my hosts file:
###########################################
#  Turn off banner ads
127.0.0.1  overture.com www20.overture.com www21.overture.com
127.0.0.1  overture.com www10.overture.com www11.overture.com
127.0.0.1  adsite.washpost.com media.washngtonpost.com
127.0.0.1  ad.doubleclick.net doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1  ads.forbes.com
127.0.0.1  partner2profit.com www.partner2profit.com
127.0.0.1  ads.partner2profit.com www.partner2profit.com
127.0.0.1  z1.adserver.com adserver.com
127.0.0.1  yourfreedvds.com  www.yourfreedvds.com
127.0.0.1  atdmt.com spe.atdmt.com
127.0.0.1  starwave.com ABCNews.starwave.com
adsatt.ABCNews.starwave.com
127.0.0.1  atwola.com ar1.atwola.com ar.atwola.com
127.0.0.1  industrybrains.com links.industrybrains.com
127.0.0.1  googlesyndication.com pagead2.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1  fastclick.net media.fastclick.net
127.0.0.1  specificclick.net adopt.specificclick.net specificlick.net
adopt.specificlick.net
127.0.0.1  clk.atdmt.com atdmt.com att.atdmt.com spme.atdmt.com
127.0.0.1  coremetrics.com   twci.coremetrics.com
127.0.0.1  adsrv.news.com.au adserver.news.com.au
127.0.0.1  banners.pennyweb.com pennyweb.com
127.0.0.1  adsrv.news.com.au adserver.news.com.au

Of course the sites probably hate this. It is the
equivalent of getting a magazine with most of
the ads chopped out. I usually only do it when
I see an annoying ad. It works in Unix and Windows.

.
Hernando Correa - 27 May 2005 00:13 GMT
I began to get these junk e-mails last week.  If you read them
carefully, you will notice that most of them have misspelled words or
font size/style changes within the body of the messages. What do the
people who send them achieve with the spam?

Hernando

> I've just received eBay and PayPal "spoofs;" apparently my name was
> culled from this NG.
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>
> Tom
marlin - 27 May 2005 01:04 GMT
Well, if somebody falls for it, the people who send them get all your info,
and then use that to hijack your paypal account, and buy a bunch of stuff
with your money.
>I began to get these junk e-mails last week.  If you read them carefully,
>you will notice that most of them have misspelled words or font size/style
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>>
>> Tom
Toppy - 27 May 2005 04:38 GMT
if the paypal account starts with "Dear sir" then you know its bogus!!
charles blassberg - 27 May 2005 08:34 GMT
> Both look quite authentic but are not;

If you hover your mouse over the hyperlink and read the destination in
your status bar at the bottom then you can tell some of the fake ones.
They will have an IP address before the ebay or paypal domain names.

eg http://123.12.321.21/ebay.com/........ is bogus
Michael - 27 May 2005 20:19 GMT
We have beem getting them this side of the water, England.  They always
address as Mr or Sir, never your name and ask for more info than than the
original, ie National Insurance number.
If you have received one please FORWARD, not reply, to Spoof (at) ebay or
Spoof (at) Paypal.
Hope they catch the */*-**/!.
Michael

> I've just received eBay and PayPal "spoofs;" apparently my name was
> culled from this NG.
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>
> Tom
Martin Joseph - 28 May 2005 00:18 GMT
> We have beem getting them this side of the water, England.  They always
> address as Mr or Sir, never your name and ask for more info than than the
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> Hope they catch the */*-**/!.
> Michael

There is little point in forwarding these if you are using brain
damaged microsoft products and don't know how to forward the full
headers...

The headers are the real way to trace the chain of email.  Although the
Link is also potentially quite useful,  none of the administrators will
bother to even check that  if you do not include the full headers from
the Phishing emails...

Marty
Dori A Schmetterling - 28 May 2005 15:46 GMT
Now now.  It is perfectly simple to obtain the headers in Outlook Express
('Properties').

Otherwise I concur.  It is essential to provide the headers for tracing.

DAS
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> There is little point in forwarding these if you are using brain damaged
> microsoft products
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Dori A Schmetterling - 28 May 2005 15:43 GMT
That's why so many of us use fake addresses.

When I started in this newsgroup I used a real address (but one I did not
use for anything else).  After I noticed the many fake addresses of other
users I switched to one myself.

Sure enough, some months later I started receiving spam to that special
address, which is still a legit address.  I still get some spam.

There truly are computer programmes that search NGs and web pages for e-mail
addresses (crawlers).  The safest is never to publish your e-mail address on
the internet.

DAS

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> I've just received eBay and PayPal "spoofs;" apparently my name was culled
> from this NG.
[...]
Martin Joseph - 28 May 2005 20:11 GMT
> Sure enough, some months later I started receiving spam to that special
> address, which is still a legit address.  I still get some spam.

Some months huh?

Nowadays it more like 10 minutes...  I am always appalled when I see
innocent people using there real addresses here...

Marty
M. Davis - 01 Jun 2005 00:14 GMT
Bad news - I got one claiming to be from from ebay that was addressed
by name and login!  Very professional looking.   The only cure is to
NEVER click on those links, but enter a url by keyboard.  If in doubt,
forward the e-mail to spoof@ebay.com or spoof@paypal.com and their
reply will tell you if it is real.
Jerry - 01 Jun 2005 03:38 GMT
Almost all are fake. I've received a couple of dozen so far. What is E-Bay
doing about them, other than sending me a form letter saying I was right in
that it was a fake? Surely they can find the A/H's who are doing this?
> Bad news - I got one claiming to be from from ebay that was addressed
> by name and login!  Very professional looking.   The only cure is to
> NEVER click on those links, but enter a url by keyboard.  If in doubt,
> forward the e-mail to spoof@ebay.com or spoof@paypal.com and their
> reply will tell you if it is real.
Dori A Schmetterling - 01 Jun 2005 10:31 GMT
Received an 'eBay' msg last week asking me to verify details.  I have never
registered there...

Not the first time.

DAS
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> Almost all are fake. I've received a couple of dozen so far. What is E-Bay
> doing about them, other than sending me a form letter saying I was right
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>> forward the e-mail to spoof@ebay.com or spoof@paypal.com and their
>> reply will tell you if it is real.
John Cisarik - 01 Jun 2005 12:42 GMT
> Bad news - I got one claiming to be from from ebay that was addressed
> by name and login!  Very professional looking.   The only cure is to
> NEVER click on those links, but enter a url by keyboard.  If in doubt,
> forward the e-mail to spoof@ebay.com or spoof@paypal.com and their
> reply will tell you if it is real.

Same here; the "phishers" apparently are becoming more sophisticated. I
received a notice from eBay addressed to me by name and login, but then sent
it to eBay myself and found out it was fake. VERY authentic looking!
Dori A Schmetterling - 01 Jun 2005 14:47 GMT
Just look at the full sender e-mail address details.

DAS

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> Same here; the "phishers" apparently are becoming more sophisticated. I
> received a notice from eBay addressed to me by name and login, but then
> sent it to eBay myself and found out it was fake. VERY authentic looking!
Jeff - 01 Jun 2005 05:25 GMT
Yes - and even Macintosh users aren't safe from email spoofs.

:(

> I've just received eBay and PayPal "spoofs;" apparently my name was culled
> from this NG.
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>
> Tom
 
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