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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / July 2005

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Dré Meuffels - 25 Jun 2005 14:19 GMT
Ik bezit een c180 2000 benzine.
De temperatuurregeling werkt normaal goed alleen nu met extreem warme dagen
is de airco niet koud genoeg. Kan ik deze afstellen? Zo ja waar zit deze
instelling?
Alvast zeer en zeer hartelijk bedankt.

Doei    Dré
The Spanish Inquisition - 25 Jun 2005 19:06 GMT
> Ik bezit een c180 2000 benzine.
> De temperatuurregeling werkt normaal goed alleen nu met extreem warme dagen
> is de airco niet koud genoeg. Kan ik deze afstellen? Zo ja waar zit deze
> instelling?
> Alvast zeer en zeer hartelijk bedankt.

Check it out! The Dutch are taking over.

Ximinez
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CaptainW116 - 25 Jun 2005 19:40 GMT
What is your hangup about 'Deutsch' posting their
questions here?It doesn't bother me and sure it doesn't bother a
majority of others so instead of
whining about it,either look over it or answer it!

Maybe the Dutch received word that this is a good
site to ask questions! If someone posted a message in Spanish,would you
get all upset if someone shared the same remarks as you about posting
in Spanish,so come on and welcome all
Mercedes owners.
Hernando Correa - 25 Jun 2005 20:22 GMT
When someone posts in other than the English language I take it as an
opportunity to enrich my knowledge base.  We may even learn something
from them...

> What is your hangup about 'Deutsch' posting their
> questions here?It doesn't bother me and sure it doesn't bother a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> in Spanish,so come on and welcome all
> Mercedes owners.
The Spanish Inquisition - 25 Jun 2005 20:50 GMT
> What is your hangup about 'Deutsch' posting their
> questions here?It doesn't bother me and sure it doesn't bother a
> majority of others so instead of
> whining about it,either look over it or answer it!

See my Dutch post for an explaination of why it bothers me so much. It
also bothers me that especially my countrymen (0.3% of the world
population) should be the ones that to use a language that nobody but
they understand. Almost all Dutchmen speak English, it's just bad
manners to stumble in and start blabbering in Dutch.

Think about it. Multilanguage newsgroups are useless because nobody
understands each other. Suppose this newsgroup would consist of hundreds
of posts in dozens of languages. Would you bother to look for the
English ones? Tower of Babel.

BTW: Deutsch (The German word for 'German') is quite different from
Dutch (the English word for people living in the Netherlands and their
native language).

Ximinez
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and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
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CaptainW116 - 25 Jun 2005 21:06 GMT
To me it seems to be more of an PERSONAL issue with you rather than
your weak defense about multilanguage postings!

You said in the other Dutch posting that this is an international
site.......Jeopardy game show theme music
playing..........................................................................................................So..?
The Spanish Inquisition - 25 Jun 2005 21:38 GMT
> To me it seems to be more of an PERSONAL issue with you rather than
> your weak defense about multilanguage postings!

It's not a defense, it's an opinion and it's a good one IMHO.

I'm still waiting to hear how useful you would find a true multilangual
newsgroup. I like to read this newsgroup to pick up on a little
background info on my MB. If a third of the postings were in Spanish and
another third in Japanese I would soon get frustrated because I wouldn't
be able to follow the discussion missing out on interesting info. It
seems logical that the same thing would apply to others even if they may
find an occassional Dutch post cute.

> You said in the other Dutch posting that this is an international
> site.......Jeopardy game show theme music
> playing..........................................................................................................So..?

The internet lingua franca is English, lucky for us.

Ximinez
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Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
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CaptainW116 - 25 Jun 2005 22:02 GMT
0.3%,how overwhelming could it realistically get?
And multilingual postings,it will become more frustrating to non
English speaking authors when
questions are rarely answered by a predominantly English speaking site
anyways.
Xenna - 25 Jun 2005 22:13 GMT
> 0.3%,how overwhelming could it realistically get?

You'd be surprised. I'm not just opposed to Dutch posts in English
groups, but for some reason you see quite a few of them regularly. If
you start counting non-English speakers you'd get overwhelmed quite
quickly. How about some Chinese posts at ca. 25% of world pop? ;)

> And multilingual postings,it will become more frustrating to non
> English speaking authors when
> questions are rarely answered by a predominantly English speaking site
> anyways.

Yes, and that's what we see happening here. Good questions and good
answers make a good newsgroup. Poor Dre Meuffels hasn't had an answer
yet... Of course, he should've posted in nl.auto because his post is not
MB specific and there's lots of Dutch speaking people there (English
posting is frowned upon). Anyway, let's lay this subject to rest for now.

X.
cp - 25 Jun 2005 22:40 GMT
> What is your hangup about 'Deutsch' posting their

'Deutsch' is German :)
charles blassberg - 30 Jun 2005 09:38 GMT
The Spanish (Dutch?) Inquisition wrote:

> Check it out! The Dutch are taking over.

Don't turn this thread into a newsgroup usage thread. There are other
newsgroups for that.

We should have a common aim of having our Mercedes work as well as we
collectively can.

If someone has decided not to embarrass themselves by their poor English
at the expense of reducing the number of people who can help then please
be a Samaritan and translate for them.

That will help them to understand how they can say in English what they
said in Dutch and also increase the number of people who can help.

A language course should not be a pre-req to enjoying your Benz.
The Spanish Inquisition - 30 Jun 2005 22:27 GMT
> The Spanish (Dutch?) Inquisition wrote:
>
>> Check it out! The Dutch are taking over.
>
> Don't turn this thread into a newsgroup usage thread. There are other
> newsgroups for that.

Of course not, the only place to discuss a particular newsgroup is in
that group itself unless you want to start a specific discussion (.d)
subgroup. I'm not starting any threads, but if I see a Dutch poster in
an international newsgroup I *will* react trying to get them to post in
English. As you can see in the other thread, that sometimes helps. It's
up to the others if this will turn into a thread.

> We should have a common aim of having our Mercedes work as well as we
> collectively can.

Yes, and to try to understand one another. I'm still waiting for anyone
to react to my earlier posting where I explained my motives.

> If someone has decided not to embarrass themselves by their poor English
> at the expense of reducing the number of people who can help then please
> be a Samaritan and translate for them.

Every Dutch person under 50 has had several years of English classes in
high school. The Dutch are known for their good English. If they can't
manage posting a simple question they should stick to Dutch speaking
ones of which there are a plethora as should any spanish, chinese,
japanese, italian, eskimo and other non-English languages.

> That will help them to understand how they can say in English what they
> said in Dutch and also increase the number of people who can help.
>
> A language course should not be a pre-req to enjoying your Benz.

Mmmm, why then must I struggle to understand the German
'Bedienungsanleitung' that came with mine? ;)

We should really all be speaking German here, herr Blassberg...

Ximinez
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Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
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CaptainW116 - 01 Jul 2005 02:39 GMT
There is no point in answering your question about
motives because this will always end in a stalemate!

I myself will feel the way I do and you will feel the way you do!
The Spanish Inquisition - 01 Jul 2005 06:15 GMT
> There is no point in answering your question about
> motives because this will always end in a stalemate!
>
> I myself will feel the way I do and you will feel the way you do!

OK, I don't think this is the place for endless discussions anyway.

I'll just stick to asking people to rephrase their questions in English
in a friendly way.

Ximinez
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Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/paulfitz/spanish/t1.html

CaptainW116 - 01 Jul 2005 08:01 GMT
Then we have an accord!
Martin Joseph - 28 Jun 2005 20:34 GMT
> Ik bezit een c180 2000 benzine.
> De temperatuurregeling werkt normaal goed alleen nu met extreem warme
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> where does this institution sit?
> In advance very and very thanks warmly.

I think you are out of luck.  If you are saying the A/C isn't cold
enough?  You can find the A/C by following the serpentine belt at the
front of your engine.  One of the items being driven is the compressor
for the A/C.

Good luck.
Marty

PS See guys, it's not that tough.
KDV - 30 Jun 2005 16:12 GMT
> Ik bezit een c180 2000 benzine.
> De temperatuurregeling werkt normaal goed alleen nu met extreem warme
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Doei    Dré

Hoi Dré,

Ik denk dat je beter uw airco eens laat bijvullen bij een airco specialist
of bij mercedes zelf. Dit heb ik 2 jaar terug ook laten doen en de airco
werkt veel beter nu, ze hebben toen 1,5 l vloeistof bij gevuld.
For the englisch speaking people:
Let an airco specialist or MB refill the airco. I have don it 2 years ago
and the airco is working mutch better, they filled 1.5 liters liquid more in
the system.

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