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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / July 2005

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How much for this E320 Wagon ?

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John Doe - 17 Jul 2005 15:20 GMT
1995 E320 Wagon
151k miles
Black, tan MB TEX
New tires (Bridgestone)
Cold AC
Factory CD changer
Fully stamped log book
ALL receipts
Clean report from MB Tech

What is this vehicle worth ?

Thanks,

Ross
Jerry Mullen - 17 Jul 2005 18:56 GMT
These are great cars but they have some very expensive maintenance items
that if not already done, you will have to have them done.
1. Head gasket: $1K
2. Throttle actuator: $1.7K
3. Engine wiring harness: $900
4. Radiator: $350
5. Water pump: $650
6. AC evaporator (God forbid!): $2700
7. Mass air flow meter: $350

So far, I have had to do everything except the evaporator on my '94 wagon
with 100K miles.

Ask the seller what has been done and insist on seeing the proof.  If the
above parts have been replaced, I feel a fair price for this car is around
8-10K.

Good luck
> 1995 E320 Wagon
> 151k miles
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> Ross
cp - 17 Jul 2005 22:21 GMT
> These are great cars but they have some very expensive maintenance items
> that if not already done, you will have to have them done.
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> 6. AC evaporator (God forbid!): $2700
> 7. Mass air flow meter: $350

Gee, if the above are maintenance items then it can't really be a great car.

cp
Hernando Correa - 18 Jul 2005 05:23 GMT
>>These are great cars but they have some very expensive maintenance items
>>that if not already done, you will have to have them done.
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>
> cp

The cost of the "maintenance" items would be $7650. That is outrageous
for a '93 vehicle. I haven't spent that much on my '86 190E 2.3 in
almost 20 years of ownership and over 195,000 MILES on the odometer.
cp - 18 Jul 2005 06:47 GMT
> The cost of the "maintenance" items would be $7650. That is outrageous

Must be something wrong with them if it's typical for the head gasket to be replaced at that age.

Though it's understandable that the following would have to be changed;  Throttle actuator, Engine wiring harness, Radiator, Water
pump, Mass air flow meter. Though at "only" 10 years...

>>>6. AC evaporator (God forbid!): $2700

Can't blame the car for that

> for a '93 vehicle. I haven't spent that much on my '86 190E 2.3 in almost 20 years of ownership and over 195,000 MILES on the
> odometer.

My brother had a 260E with over 340K km after he sold it to a friend, that guy is still happy with the car. Those were cars.

cp
Jerry Mullen - 18 Jul 2005 16:38 GMT
Ok, let me explain.  The expensive repairs that I mentioned are necessary on
'93-95 E class with the M104 engine.  Wiring harness and throttle actuator
go bad because they were manufactured using recycled plastic for wire
dielectric.  It turns to powder and the wires short together.  The car I had
before this one was an '88 300TE with the M103 engine that never gave me any
problems in 240K miles, too bad it was totaled one night when a lady with a
dog in her lap blew through a stop sign, I would have still been enjoying
that car.  The '94 now that all of the repairs have been made drives like a
race car and in many ways is superior to the '88TE, way more power and 4MPG
better gas mileage.
> > The cost of the "maintenance" items would be $7650. That is outrageous
>
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> cp
cp - 19 Jul 2005 03:44 GMT
> Ok, let me explain.  The expensive repairs that I mentioned are necessary on
> '93-95 E class with the M104 engine.  Wiring harness and throttle actuator
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> race car and in many ways is superior to the '88TE, way more power and 4MPG
> better gas mileage.

Oh I'm sure that the later w124s are excellent cars, but that's about when they started getting cheap on the components, as you
demonstrate.

cp
Martin Joseph - 19 Jul 2005 20:40 GMT
> Wiring harness and throttle actuator
> go bad because they were manufactured using recycled plastic for wire
> dielectric.  It turns to powder and the wires short together.

This is an overly simplistic explanation (blaming the recycled
plastic).  Let's just say the harnesses were poorly manufactured shall
we?
Tiger - 18 Jul 2005 20:03 GMT
Just use kbb.com, edmunds.com or nadaguides.com for pricing guideline...
edmunds.com tends to be more specific and most of time, reflect actual
market value.

Don't bother with "potential" cost of repairs... it is not your
responsibility to compensate for them... but if it is obvious that you got
that problem... it would be worth to consider partial cost discount.

The fact you got all service records will increase your value...
 
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