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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / September 2005

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94 E320 AC problem

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jaykwon72@gmail.com - 12 Aug 2005 00:25 GMT
hi there.  my 94 E320 is having complete A/C failure.  In fact, even
the fan nor the heater works.  It's basically anything related to
climate control that failed miserably in this heat...  The local
mechanic says that all fuse seems to be in working order but
recommended that I take it to the dealer and get it fixed for somewhere
around 400.  Any thoughts on this??  This car's been having constant
electrical problems to give you folks a bit of background on this car.
One of the stereo channel's will mute then come back on without any
indication of what happened, the windows sometimes stops working then
starts working all of a sudden, again without any indication of what's
wrong.  I'm under the impression that since the fan isn't even turning,
the electrical problem is somehow the culprit of all of my problems and
the AC problem is just another cascading effect of this issue.  Can
someone please point me in the right direction?  Thanks a million.

j
ws - 12 Aug 2005 02:58 GMT
> hi there.  my 94 E320 is having complete A/C failure.  In fact, even
> the fan nor the heater works.  It's basically anything related to
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> around 400.  Any thoughts on this??  This car's been having constant
> electrical problems to give you folks a bit of background on this car.

Hm, is this one of the model years with the "environmentally friendly"
wiring insulation that (bio)degrades?

> One of the stereo channel's will mute then come back on without any
> indication of what happened, the windows sometimes stops working then
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>
> j

Suggest that the wiring harness be changed out first. There have been
other posts in this group about this problem, but HTH.

Cheers,
WS

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T.G. Lambach - 12 Aug 2005 06:27 GMT
The wiring harness first came to mind but its failure usually causes
shorts and engine stalling (due to the disintegrating insulation). This
problem, as described, is lack of continuity, not shorts.
T.G. Lambach - 12 Aug 2005 06:24 GMT
Was the car in a significant wreck?

If so, the electrical wires in the wreck site should be checked for
abraded insulation, broken wires etc.

If not in a wreck I'd suggest you check the ground connections between
the battery and the chassis, the chassis and the motor, the ground
between the dash board and the chassis etc. etc.

Ghosts don't create intermittent events - and that's what's happening
here, IMHO, - so you need to find the cause. The fact that the fuses are
OK indicates no shorts so there's a break in the circuit - somewhere -
and your task is to find the break.
jaykwon72@gmail.com - 12 Aug 2005 16:09 GMT
> Was the car in a significant wreck?
>
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> OK indicates no shorts so there's a break in the circuit - somewhere -
> and your task is to find the break.

It was involved in a significant crash but it was a rear left
collision..  The funny thing is that this thing actually worked for
about 30 minutes this morning.  It wouldn't work again as assumed when
I first tried it again today but after flipping the temperature to HOT
then turning on the AC worked again, obviously including the fan.  Then
it stopped working altogether again.  My wife's going to take it to our
mechanic to see what can be done but thank you all for your comments.
Tiger - 12 Aug 2005 16:26 GMT
I would check the overload relay unit... They had a bad batch of these at
the same timeframe as your car... Check the date of manufacture on the side
of the unit.

I would double check the ground... battery cable.
Jan - 13 Aug 2005 14:02 GMT
> hi there.  my 94 E320 is having complete A/C failure.  In fact, even
> the fan nor the heater works.  It's basically anything related to
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>
> j

I had same problem on my 300E.

Tests showed that, under full load, the voltage was only 11.2V.
Mechanic believed it was the alternator, since he had replaced the
voltage regulator already.
It is my understanding that the climate control 'problems' are actually
safety cutoffs which engage when funny things like this happen.

In my case I felt it was time for the car to move on to it's next owner...
Gmach - 18 Aug 2005 21:35 GMT
"" wrote:
> hi there.  my 94 E320 is having complete A/C failure.  In
> fact, even
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>
> j

I had the  same "issues" with my 94 E320 and it was the evaporator
core......yikes.....hope you can DIY. Engine wiring harness will give
weird engine codes.....and it will need to be replaced eventually. To
check and see if the problem is the evap. core you can have the local
A/C store put a die in the system then check for it "dripping" out
under the car OR get a hydrocarbon based coolant (Pepboy’s etc) and
install it. Usually come as a kit with the connectors. The hydrocarbo
has an "odour" that if present IN the car is definitive for the
evaporator. Good Luck
JMW - 10 Sep 2005 13:34 GMT
> hi there.  my 94 E320 is having complete A/C failure.  In fact, even
> the fan nor the heater works.  It's basically anything related to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> j

Had same problems with my '92.  Mechanic said I was getting only 11.2V
when everything was turned on.  Said a new alternator or voltage relay
was probably needed.  Said the A/C has internal safeties which switch
off if problems like this happen - so that condensation does not build
up and lead to internal rust problems - and this will APPEAR to be A/C
problems.

Since this is so much exactly like what I had, there may be some truth
to it.  Suggest you check freon and plan to put a heavy duty battery in,
if yours is on the weak side.

Jan
 
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