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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / August 2005

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Diagnosing  C/C  needs

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Cheesehead - 18 Aug 2005 16:18 GMT
These are the codes that Shawn provided.

Data -- Code
100  -- 01 - in car temperature sensor
76  -- 02 - outside temp sensor
87  -- 03 - heater core temp sensor left
87  -- 04 - heater core temp sensor right
85  -- 05 - evaporator temp sensor
112  -- 06 - ECT sensor (DFI/IFI)
00  -- 07 - refrigerant pressure (displayed in bar)
84  -- 08 - refrigerant emp sensor (displayed in degrees F)
27  -- 09 - not used
00  -- 10 - blower control voltage (08 to 60 - corresponding to 0.8V
to 6.0V)
4.6  -- 11 - emissions sensor (in volts)

3.2  -- 12 - sun sensor (in volts)
(sun)
4.6
(shade)
3.2  -- 20 - control current for aux fan (in milli-amps)
32  -- 21 - engine speed (00-99 -  x100 = rpm)
00  -- 22 - vehicle speed km/h
32  -- 23 - voltage at terminal 58 (indicating % of battery voltage -
ie. 99 = 99%)

11.6 -- 24 - actual battery voltage
(engine off)
13.3
(idle)

164  -- 40 - software status
91  -- 41 - hardware status

       (Codes not in Shawn's list)
72  -- 42 - function unknown
16  -- 43 - function unknown

Your thoughts, anyone?

TIA,

Collin
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T.G. Lambach - 18 Aug 2005 17:38 GMT
So, if you knew one or more of these CC code readings, what would or
could YOU do?

Its all just meaningless data without the overall plan or the code
specifications.

What's the specific problem?
Cheesehead - 18 Aug 2005 18:29 GMT
No cold air.
T.G. Lambach - 18 Aug 2005 22:53 GMT
No cold air.

Have you felt the condenser coils to see if they're hot i.e. that the
compressor is running and that heat is being shed?

Have you felt the coolant lines at both heater control valves to see if
they're hot - going into the heater?

These simple checks will tell you if the problem is not enough cool or
too much heat.

Then its time to have the professionals fix the cooling or you fix the
heater control valves or - last resort - the dealer fix the climate
control's electronics.
Cheesehead - 18 Aug 2005 23:23 GMT
Thanks.  I'm not much of a car guy.
Software is my area.  I'm a techno-geek in the IBM/Lotus arena.
(Though I am doing software for the R&D of an auto mfg in Ohio.)

Collin
Shawn - 19 Aug 2005 03:03 GMT
IMHO the answer is in the codes.
Refrigerant pressure - zero
Refrigerant temperature - 84F
Evaporator temp sensor - 85F

Your A/C coolant (freon or whatever it's using) is gone.
There must be a small leak or something but you have no cold air because
there is no refrigerant. (zero pressure in the line and a line
temperature higher than the ambient of 76 F probably due to it being
next to a warm engine)

Skip the dealer, find an A/C specialist - get him to find & fix the leak
then re-fill with R-whatever they are using now, and you're off to the
races.

>These are the codes that Shawn provided.
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Cheesehead - 19 Aug 2005 03:28 GMT
Makes sense.
The pipes have no temp change @ all.
Time to let a pro do what a pro does.

Thanks,

Collin
 
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