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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / August 2005

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1982 500SL - low power

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PaulG - 28 Aug 2005 21:33 GMT
Hi all.  My 1982 500SL seems to exhibit a strange behavior and I'm
wondering if anyone else has ever experienced it.  If I drive the car
for a little while, and then turn it off for a few and start it back up
again, the car seems to have virtually no power.  I can floor the gas
pedal but the car will accelerate very slowly.  Sometimes, this problem
will go away after several minutes of driving.  I just had the vacuum
modulator and the hose going to it replaced on the transmission
thinking that would solve the problem and it hasn't.  Both were
cracked.  Anyone ever have this happen?  It only seems to do it if I
shut the car off after driving it a little bit and start it back up
again.  I live in the US if that makes a difference; this car is grey
market.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks!
Martin Joseph - 29 Aug 2005 03:21 GMT
> Hi all.  My 1982 500SL seems to exhibit a strange behavior and I'm
> wondering if anyone else has ever experienced it.  If I drive the car
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> again.  I live in the US if that makes a difference; this car is grey
> market.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks!

Pull the plugs and have a look at them.  it could be that one or more
of the plugs  is getting oil fouled...  Then when you restart the car,  
you have none of the advantages and a cold start (ie moree fuel and
higher idle speed), so you are noticing the engine misfiring.  Once the
plug heats up enough to start firing properly, it runs smoothly again.

Just a theory, but a relatively simple one to test.

Marty
PaulG - 29 Aug 2005 03:30 GMT
It does idle a little high, maybe around 900rpm.  I'll have a look at
the plugs for a start.  I can't say that I've noticed any misfiring
though.
T.G. Lambach - 29 Aug 2005 05:33 GMT
This is nothing more than a stab at your car's problem, especially since
it's a gray market vehicle.

I suspect the engine's control computer is misreading either the
engine's temperature or the O2 in the exhaust or throttle position but,
as I wrote, its only a stab at the problem. This problem is engine
control related, not just a simple vacuum leak.

It's OK if you start it cold and drive continuously for a long distance
but NOT if you stop for gas etc. and then restart it.

This won't be easily found. If the engine is not hot BUT the computer
believes it IS hot then a lean air/ fuel ratio will be put into the
engine. A faulty temperature sensor might be the cause. Or a bad O2 sensor.

The throttle position sensor is less of a suspect as the problem only
occurs during warm up.

You won't solve this so find a shop that understands the difference(s)
between the USA spec and gray market spec cars.
PaulG - 29 Aug 2005 13:15 GMT
I was looking for vacuum leaks yesterday and came up with nothing.  I
did discover that one of the wires to the cold start valve wasn't
connected very well.  But, I don't think that was the problem though.
I'll replace the O2 sensor since I have no idea when it was last
changed.  I'll also try disconnecting the temp sensor while the car is
idling to see if anything happens.  If I remember correctly from my
Volkswagen, if you disconnect the temp sensor and nothing happens to
the idle, then it isn't working.  I could be thinking of something else
though.
 
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