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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / September 2005

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Cheesehead - 08 Sep 2005 14:55 GMT
Even though the E320/210 body has a nice feature set,
I really liked riding in my son's old '83 300DT/123 better.
It seemed much more solid on the road.

What's your favorite ride?

Collin
KC8TKA
BillyMack - 08 Sep 2005 19:04 GMT
'84 300 SD w126

Billymack
Dano - 08 Sep 2005 23:54 GMT
For me every ride has been better and the cars more reliable.

'79 300D 123 - loved it at the time but quirky as those older Ds could
be sometimes
'85 190D 201 - firmer, sportier and more reliable than the '79 -
repairs became costly after 150k miles
'95 E300D 124 - nearly a perfect car with the non-turbo 606 engine,
great ride and very reliable through 210k miles
'02 E320 210 - no complaints, my favorite ride to date even though I
prefer diesels.
saeef - 09 Sep 2005 12:26 GMT
My favorite ride is setting my cruise @ 180 km/hr on my 91 560SEC.
Comfortable seats, nice Audio, solid and reliable. The only drawback is
the fuel consumption.
Dori A Schmetterling - 09 Sep 2005 22:25 GMT
Where are you that you can set 180 km on the cruise control?

DAS

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> My favorite ride is setting my cruise @ 180 km/hr on my 91 560SEC.
> Comfortable seats, nice Audio, solid and reliable. The only drawback is
> the fuel consumption.
John Cisarik - 10 Sep 2005 05:44 GMT
Dori:

I don't know where HE is, but a friend of mine in Buenos Aires sent me an
e-mail about riding in a Mercedes down there, and I thought I misunderstood,
because he wrote that they rode at "220 kms." When I wrote back and said
that that would be more than 120 miles per hour, he said yes, that was
correct; the owner of the car was demonstrating the car's power and how easy
it was to control at high speeds....

> Where are you that you can set 180 km on the cruise control?
>
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>> Comfortable seats, nice Audio, solid and reliable. The only drawback is
>> the fuel consumption.
cp - 10 Sep 2005 08:11 GMT
> I don't know where HE is, but a friend of mine in Buenos Aires sent me an e-mail about riding in a Mercedes down there, and I
> thought I misunderstood, because he wrote that they rode at "220 kms." When I wrote back and said that that would be more than 120
> miles per hour, he said yes, that was correct; the owner of the car was demonstrating the car's power and how easy it was to
> control at high speeds....

Any of the cheapest and smallest Mazdas, Toyotas or Hondas or VWs will do over 120mph (190km/h), why so surprised? Never been
outside of the US? I gave a ride to some guy from Vancouver once to the Expo 2000 in Hannover, 3 lanes of bumper to bumper rush hour
traffic at 120mph (190km/h), now that's driving, the poor guy almost passed from fright :-)  In Paris, from experience, heavy
traffic can move at over 140mph in the tunnels that you can see in the movie Ronin. I've spent thousands of kilometers at over
150mph, nothing to brag about in Europe, you really must do some travel and see how things are done in the rest of the world.

cp
Dori A Schmetterling - 10 Sep 2005 15:48 GMT
It's not the 180 km/h I was querying -- I have exceeded that on many
occasions -- it was the fact that he could set cruise control, implying that
a few minutes at least could go by at that speed.

DAS
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> cp
cp - 10 Sep 2005 18:53 GMT
> It's not the 180 km/h I was querying -- I have exceeded that on many occasions -- it was the fact that he could set cruise
> control, implying that a few minutes at least could go by at that speed.

Oh I understood what you were saying. I didn't know cruise could be set at that speed. At that speed one ought to be concentrating,
cruise control is not for that.

cp
saeef - 11 Sep 2005 04:40 GMT
> > It's not the 180 km/h I was querying -- I have exceeded that on many occasions -- it was the fact that he could set cruise
> > control, implying that a few minutes at least could go by at that speed.
>
> Oh I understood what you were saying. I didn't know cruise could be set at that speed. At that speed one ought to be concentrating,
> cruise control is not for that.

In the 560 you don't feel the speed as in some other cars. It drives
smooth and effortless at high speeds, it kind of likes to go 160km/hr
or more. The curise control works up to 240 km/hr (150 mile/hr). The
max speed on the odo is 260 km/hr (163mile/hr).
cp - 11 Sep 2005 23:36 GMT
> In the 560 you don't feel the speed as in some other cars. It drives
> smooth and effortless at high speeds, it kind of likes to go 160km/hr
> or more.

Yeh, exactly, that's the problem, you don't realize the speed and might not react appropriately if something comes up.

>The curise control works up to 240 km/hr (150 mile/hr). The
> max speed on the odo is 260 km/hr (163mile/hr).

It will go faster! :-)

cp
Cheesehead - 12 Sep 2005 19:03 GMT
The old 300/320 inline 6 will do a steady 80mph (130kmph) and not feel
even a little stress.
I've more worries about the transmission than about the engine.

Also,
is the correct nomenclature
a. kph
b. km/hr
c. km/h

... or does anyone really care.  (Even if you know what time it is.)

Collin
KC8TKA
E320/97 with wings
Dori A Schmetterling - 12 Sep 2005 19:24 GMT
I would say c. is the nearest to the SI unit version, thus 'most correct',
but a. is widely used in English-speaking countries.

Should be km h(raised to power of minus one), which is a bit clumsy and
impossible to render in text-only format.

hr is the English, non-SI unit for hours and is still widely used, but
strictly, incorrect.

DAS

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> The old 300/320 inline 6 will do a steady 80mph (130kmph) and not feel
> even a little stress.
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> KC8TKA
> E320/97 with wings
John Cisarik - 13 Sep 2005 00:38 GMT
> The old 300/320 inline 6 will do a steady 80mph (130kmph) and not feel
> even a little stress.
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> KC8TKA
> E320/97 with wings

About nomenclature: My owner's manual shows mph and km/h, but that may be a
format designed for the American market. (I'm nine floors above my parked
car right now, otherwise I'd look at the speedometer.)
cp - 13 Sep 2005 07:08 GMT
> The old 300/320 inline 6 will do a steady 80mph (130kmph) and not feel
> even a little stress.

You mean 130mph?

My brother's '87 5spd 2.6 w124 would go almost 120mph up mountain passes. Heck, my mom's '89 200D w124 will do 115mph and I've
driven 4cyl turbo diesel benzes at over 145mph for a couple of hours so what's 80mph for a 300/320?

cp
Cheesehead - 13 Sep 2005 12:33 GMT
I meant kilometers / hour.
Making the inline 300/320 do 100mph is be no big deal.
It's definitely a better engine than the V.  But the transmission I do
have questions about.

The 300D engine really began to impress me when I took the old '83 (2
years ago)
out on Interstate 70 near Dayton, going to the HamVention.  My brother
stepped down
on his 2.0 Passat and took off way ahead.  So I stepped down on the
Diesel.  (It's name
was "Vin".  Of course.)  The little bugger surprised me and I caught up
with him
A most positive diesel experience.

I want another one.  Anyone got one to trade for my E?  :)

Collin
KC8TKA
E320/97
cp - 14 Sep 2005 07:34 GMT
Yeh, what I meant was that 130km/h or 230km/h is a snooze for a 300/320

cp

>I meant kilometers / hour.
> Making the inline 300/320 do 100mph is be no big deal.
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> KC8TKA
> E320/97
saeef - 10 Sep 2005 06:14 GMT
> Where are you that you can set 180 km on the cruise control?
>
> DAS

In Oman. We have a dual carriageway across a desert with few traffics.
Actually I drove the car once to 255 km/hr but only for a short time.
It want to 240 easy, but from 240 to 255km/hr, it took about 3 kms to
reach.Even at these speeds the car was still solid and stable.
cp - 10 Sep 2005 08:08 GMT
> In Oman. We have a dual carriageway across a desert with few traffics.
> Actually I drove the car once to 255 km/hr but only for a short time.
> It want to 240 easy, but from 240 to 255km/hr, it took about 3 kms to
> reach.Even at these speeds the car was still solid and stable.

Nothing to brag about. Drive at that speed for a couple hundred of kilometers. 255km/h should be nothing for a 560SEC.

cp
Dori A Schmetterling - 10 Sep 2005 15:53 GMT
Can be quite a strain on the driver, requiring considerable extra
concentration even when the roads are empty.

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> Nothing to brag about. Drive at that speed for a couple hundred of
> kilometers. 255km/h should be nothing for a 560SEC.
>
> cp
cp - 10 Sep 2005 18:55 GMT
> Can be quite a strain on the driver, requiring considerable extra concentration even when the roads are empty.

I understand very well :-) but what I was saying is the 560 is capable of more, a friend's cousin at work drives his at over at
280km/h, not in ejaculatory bursts of speed either :-)

cp
CaptainW116 - 10 Sep 2005 08:11 GMT
1938 W125 Streamliner and hits a top speed of
271 mph....oh,sorry that was a dream. ;-)

My 79 450SEL 6.9 by far !!!!!!
Dori A Schmetterling - 10 Sep 2005 15:52 GMT
I was curious not because you reached 180 km/h, an easily attainable number
as cp has also said, but the fact that you have enough space and time to
make it worthwhile setting cruise control at that level.

What's the official speed limit?..  :-)

DAS

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> In Oman. We have a dual carriageway across a desert with few traffics.
> Actually I drove the car once to 255 km/hr but only for a short time.
> It want to 240 easy, but from 240 to 255km/hr, it took about 3 kms to
> reach.Even at these speeds the car was still solid and stable.
saeef - 11 Sep 2005 04:53 GMT
DAS,

The official speed limit is 120 km/hr. But with very few traffic,
curising at 180km is easy and you get used to it. Yes it requires you
to be alert and concentrating. The thing you got to watch for is those
driving at slower speeds on the right lane and then suddenly decide to
cut into your lane.
 
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