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Car Forum / Mercedes-Benz Cars / October 2005

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2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E320 CDI Sedan

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james124 - 29 Sep 2005 07:30 GMT
2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E320 CDI Sedan

Standard Features:
Head Protection Curtain Side Head Curtain Airbags Located In Headliner
Automatic Slip Control (ASR) All-Speed Traction Control Controlled By ABS
and Engine Management
AM/FM Radio With Seek, Scan, Speed Sensitive Volume, and 9 Speakers Total;
In-Dash CD Player

And More about to know of 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E320 CDI Sedan at
http://www.bhbenz.com/
Dori A Schmetterling - 29 Sep 2005 13:35 GMT
Great.  I can have a CLK 350 for under 30 000 quid.  Why can't I have that
here in the UK?

DAS

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Alan Mudd - 29 Sep 2005 18:18 GMT
Because we don't have a subsidised domestic car industry with which all the
other importing manufacturers have to compete.

So they can charge pretty much what they want here, plus tax of course. But
we pay it, if we didn't the wouldn't be in business.

Alan M

> Great.  I can have a CLK 350 for under 30 000 quid.  Why can't I have that
> here in the UK?
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greek_philosophizer - 29 Sep 2005 18:42 GMT
> Because we don't have a subsidised domestic car industry with which all the
> other importing manufacturers have to compete.
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> Alan M

So then all this noise about the
World Trade Organization and dropping
barriers to markets is not in
conformance with reality?

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Alan Mudd - 29 Sep 2005 21:28 GMT
It's nonsense in reality.

The barriers are dropped until it starts effecting tax revenue, then
whatever is effecting revenue has quotas applied to it, but in a stealthy
way obviously.

Example, fuel had become so expensive in the UK that some UK hauliers that
regularly did a Europe run were fitting large fuel tanks to the trucks, this
enabled them to fill up in Europe at sensible prices, run the load back to
the UK, run a load out to Europe and re fill.

Nothing wrong with this in a free trading Europe I hear you say, sure, the
government slapped a maximum size on truck tanks so they had to refuel here,
anything over the "legal" fuel tank size was classed as importing
petrochemicals and duty was levied.....errr that's not what I call level.

Also the free trade between European countries has many exclusions,
generally high taxation items in the UK, ciggies, any form of fuel etc.....

It's not a level playing field and it's really starting to hurt many UK
business.

I'm an importer, I import Marble and limestone from Portugal and Spain, no
limits on what I do thankfully and I can import duty free, but I use a
German haulier as they can transport my goods cheaper than any UK firm, go
figure.

I can't compete on price with marble and stone coming in from the far east,
but the quality difference is so vast anyone that wants a quality product
buys from a European importer like me, so it's not really effecting me that
much.

Now if we actually had a car industry left in this country that produced
quality vehicles, and these vehicles were price competitively, then
Mercedes, BWM and Audi would have a harder time of it and need to reduce
prices, but we don't so they effectively charge whatever they like. (or
whatever they can get people to pay).

But this is all relative to volume, many of these car companies would not
exist with sales in the USA, they couldn't sustain the business, so the
American market is looked at as a whole. They sell more units, so they can
sell them for less and still make a sizeable sum of money at the end of it.

If I get an enquiry for marble and a customer wants 50sq/m then they are
going to pay a whole lot more per sq/m than the contractor that wants to buy
a container full from me, 1000sq/m. Is that fair? well not really actually,
but it's basic supply and demand and a free market economy. So at the end of
the day, as long as make enough money it becomes less important what
percentage of my turnover is profit as long as what's left is the right
amount..

Alan M.

www.atstone.co.uk - of your in the slightest bit curious.

:-)

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greek_philosophizer - 30 Sep 2005 00:20 GMT
> It's nonsense in reality.
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> :-)

Thank you for the link, I am more than slightly curious.

Especially since  I recently read a while back that Updown Court has
a marble driveway.

I am a bit skeptical that a mere 40,000 square foot house can
be worth 70 million pounds, That house is only about 30 miles
from your business so I assume you know what I am talking about.

Those pastry boards looked like they would make great gifts.

And just to be on topic, will a marble driveway last under the
weight of a large Mercedes?

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Alan Mudd - 30 Sep 2005 20:33 GMT
> Thank you for the link, I am more than slightly curious.
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> And just to be on topic, will a marble driveway last under the
> weight of a large Mercedes?

Sure, it will all be bespoke slab so it can be manufactured to any thickness
required.

However it's probably marble cobbles or something similar as a polished or
honed marble drive would be as smooth as the bowling alley that's in the
basement of this residence.

Oh and don't think of it as a home, it's more a private hotel, it's got five
swimming pools for heavens sake!

Apparently it's a statement house, I'd probably make a different statement
with £70 million, most of them would be red and Italian and at lest 40 years
old..:-)

Alan M.
greek_philosophizer - 06 Oct 2005 17:59 GMT
> Sure, it will all be bespoke slab so it can be manufactured to any thickness
> required.
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> Alan M.

http://www.updowncourt.com/

I do not understand the bowling alley. It does not
seem to be the kind of thing the target demographic
would find attractive. I thought bowling was a USA
only activity. Whoever buys that house will probably
rip it out as fast as they can.

What is wrong with a smooth driveway? That would look
kind of cool. Plus it would force people to drive slowly.

The house does look like a hotel from the front, But
it is so small it would really just be a very nice
Bed and Breakfast.

At least you would be able to park the Maybach under
the front awning and not get wet.

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Alan Mudd - 06 Oct 2005 18:39 GMT
http://www.updowncourt.com/

I do not understand the bowling alley. It does not
seem to be the kind of thing the target demographic
would find attractive. I thought bowling was a USA
only activity. Whoever buys that house will probably
rip it out as fast as they can.

What is wrong with a smooth driveway? That would look
kind of cool. Plus it would force people to drive slowly.

The house does look like a hotel from the front, But
it is so small it would really just be a very nice
Bed and Breakfast.

At least you would be able to park the Maybach under
the front awning and not get wet.

.

Some Russians will probably buy it, So far I don't think anyone English has
looked at it anyhow.

Never mind what it costs to buy, can you imagine what the running costs
would be.

Russians are the new Arabs when it comes to money, more than 200,000 of them
living in central London now and Moscow now has more Billionaires than any
other city on the planet.

I imagine it'll be Upski Downski Court soon...:-)

Alan M.
Dori A Schmetterling - 13 Oct 2005 21:35 GMT
I have a 10-pin bowling alley down the road from me and I have been there to
bowl!  And I don't live in the USA...

DAS

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greek_philosophizer - 14 Oct 2005 15:24 GMT
> I have a 10-pin bowling alley down the road from me and I have been there to
> bowl!  And I don't live in the USA...

I stand corrected!

http://wvwv.essortment.com/historyofbowli_rkdx.htm

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Dori A Schmetterling - 17 Oct 2005 13:08 GMT
Your article refers, in the penultimate paragraph, to Europeans bringing
their own version of bowling to the US...

My local (no good pics, unfortunately):
http://www.queensiceandbowl.co.uk/

Pretty popular in Germany, too.  And, I am guessing here, probably in other
European countries and elsewhere.

DAS
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Dori A Schmetterling - 30 Sep 2005 10:29 GMT
This is news to me.  I know about cars and aeroplanes (where you still have
to pay the delivery country's VAT).

Perhaps you are confusing limits with guidelines?  The free movement of
TAX-PAID booze, tobacco etc is for personal use only, so if one exceeds the
guidelines all EU countries (AFAIK) are entitled to ask for proof that it
still is for personal use.

One UK example given is "a daughter's wedding" and, ironically, an
acquaintance of mine did just that some years ago.  Did a day trip to Paris
from London and loaded his car up with wine, far exceeding the guidelines
for two persons (wife in car, too).  He was stopped by HM Customs and let
through on production of evidence for the forthcoming wedding.

DAS

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> Also the free trade between European countries has many exclusions,
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> etc.....
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Alan Mudd - 30 Sep 2005 20:21 GMT
There is small print available in the law to allow C&E to do pretty much
whatever they want, effectively the duty of proof is with you and not with
them. The opposite of what we understand in normal law.

They can seize what they like, you then have to prove it's use, quite
difficult.

Alan M.

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Dori A Schmetterling - 01 Oct 2005 12:20 GMT
I thought that C & E recently had their knuckles rapped for heavy-handedness
at the ports.

DAS

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